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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yes, Joey Barton and the treatment of Sir Bobby are good reasons to dislike too.
 
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GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
It's the 'best fans in the world' thing that gets my goat, in 91-92 when we played them in the league (Div 2, old money) I'm sure there were less than 20,000 there. Don't get me wrong 15-20,000 is a decent enough attendance for that level of football, But the likes of Leeds, Citeh, Forest and even Leicester got higher crowds than that one division lower. This suggests that many people started match going because the team is successful. If that's what you want to do, fine, but you've no right to claim to be the best fans in the world.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire


The black line represents Newcastle's average attendance, the green block is the average attendance that season for the top flight.

Granted, at its lowest it often manages to stay above the top flight average, but it's all relative and I think the sharp rise from when Keegan returned in 92 shows you that they are nothing but a glory-hunting bunch of morons with stupid accents :ph34r:
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Would be interesting to know the capacity for the stadium throughout those times. /statsnerd
Pretty sure the capacity in 91 was the same as it was in 95

edit, looked it up and tbf they expanded in 93, but it was by no means full in 91-92
 

Craig

World Traveller
I have to say I'm glad UEFA is going after Didier Drogba and Jose Bosingwa after the way they behaved in the CL Semi Final leg at Stamford Bridge. If I had it my way I would make the actions of Drogba, Bosingwa and Michael Ballack all recieved a red card by the ref. Really if you come in harsh then I think the players will cut out their crap and get on with the game.

In rugby if there is a dodgy call you don't see half the team crowding around the ref or one of them chasing after the ref or acting like a complete and utter wanker (like Drogba) as the final whistle went. If the refis going to lay down the law to a captain or a player, they stand there, listen to what the official has to say and get on with it.
 

Smith

Banned
I have to say I'm glad UEFA is going after Didier Drogba and Jose Bosingwa after the way they behaved in the CL Semi Final leg at Stamford Bridge. If I had it my way I would make the actions of Drogba, Bosingwa and Michael Ballack all recieved a red card by the ref. Really if you come in harsh then I think the players will cut out their crap and get on with the game.

In rugby if there is a dodgy call you don't see half the team crowding around the ref or one of them chasing after the ref or acting like a complete and utter wanker (like Drogba) as the final whistle went. If the refis going to lay down the law to a captain or a player, they stand there, listen to what the official has to say and get on with it.
Should have booked a chartered flight.
 

Agent TBY

International Captain
In rugby if there is a dodgy call you don't see half the team crowding around the ref or one of them chasing after the ref or acting like a complete and utter wanker (like Drogba) as the final whistle went. If the refis going to lay down the law to a captain or a player, they stand there, listen to what the official has to say and get on with it.
Yeah, but in Rugby, you're allowed to bring the opponent down, and touch the ball (or whatever it is called) with your hands.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Pretty sure the capacity in 91 was the same as it was in 95

edit, looked it up and tbf they expanded in 93, but it was by no means full in 91-92
They expanded again at the start of this century as well, which the reason for the other major increase. They have basically averaged full crowds since the start of the Premier League.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Yeah, but that was my point; they didn't get full crowds when they were outside the Prem so they can't claim to be the best fans in the world.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
In rugby if there is a dodgy call you don't see half the team crowding around the ref or one of them chasing after the ref or acting like a complete and utter wanker (like Drogba) as the final whistle went. If the refis going to lay down the law to a captain or a player, they stand there, listen to what the official has to say and get on with it.
Haha you and my Dad would get on rather well I think. He is a massive rugby fan and says nearly that exact statement word-for-word whenever he is watching football on the TV and footballers surround the ref. Agree totally FTR.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, but that was my point; they didn't get full crowds when they were outside the Prem so they can't claim to be the best fans in the world.
The fact that they have kept turning up this season, even though they have played like crap, says something about there current fans. Yeah maybe the had little support base prior to coming into the PL. But i don't see what their fans were like 20 years ago, has anything to do with their current fans.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Well to start, their crowds have declined this season. And basically my point is that they are constantly lauded as a club who have the best, most loyal fans in the country. Loads of these fans who are there 'week in week out' now were old enough to be there when they were in the old second but chose not to be. Fine, your perogative, but don't then claim to be something you're not.

Man City got 30,000+ regularly in the third, and that's in a city with two clubs, one of whom are, you know, pretty successful. They are just one example as to why it's tosh that the geordies are anything special as fans. We'll see how much their attendances drop off next season when they are playing Peterborough.

BTW, when the whites went down in 01, our crowds went up the next season, now that's hardcore :ph34r:
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Gillingham promoted from league 2 after beating Shrewsbury. Didn't look a great side when I saw them a few weeks back, certainly not as good as Bury but thats the way the play-offs work.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Are people in favour of play-offs or would you rather that first 3 teams (or the the different amount for each division) went up instead?
 

Uppercut

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Are people in favour of play-offs or would you rather that first 3 teams (or the the different amount for each division) went up instead?
I'm in favour. It gives more teams something to play for. Think, Corrin's season would have been over before christmas if it weren't for the playoffs.
 

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Are people in favour of play-offs or would you rather that first 3 teams (or the the different amount for each division) went up instead?
Bean counters love the play offs

Neutrals love 'em as do supporters of whoever comes 4th 5th and 6th

The only fans who moan about them are those who support teams who come third but can't get through them and that's just a pathetic whinge

............. mind you it's completely different when you have a season when there is only one automatic place into the premiership thus the runners-up have to go into the play offs - that is totally unfair, a complete f***ing lottery and contrary to the rules of natural justice, supporters human rights and the gut reaction of right minded football supporters everywhere :@
 

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