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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Was my rant against Arsenal earlier proved right? Haven't seen the game yet, only the result. Was out.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I don't think your rant about Arsenal contains any real relevance to which happened today, but the performance was poor I gather.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Ha, this is turning out to be of the most craziest seasons in recent memory. Very good for the league no doubt.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
How exactly? It's no different to any other in recent memory. Arsenal failing against teams who are supposedly inferior has been happening for years.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
How exactly? It's no different to any other in recent memory. Arsenal failing against teams who are supposedly inferior has been happening for years.
Wasn't really referring to Arsenal yo, the season in general, Tottenham & Hull's crazy start & the contrasting fortunes of the Big 4 to date, don't think anyone can say for sure ATS who between Man U, Liverpool or Chelsea will win the league or who might get relegated. Long may it continue..
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Wasn't really referring to Arsenal yo, the season in general, Tottenham & Hull's crazy start & the contrasting fortunes of the Big 4 to date, don't think anyone can say for sure ATS who between Man U, Liverpool or Chelsea will win the league or who might get relegated. Long may it continue..
Again, this could all be said of the last few seasons, replace Hull with Reading and you have a near enough mirror image of two years ago.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Reading got into the top 5 two seaons at any stage & did any major club like the spurs/magpies have such horrific early seasons starts?. Plus when last did Liverpool show so much toughness in the league.

Look i'm finding this season pretty intruiging if you don't, well thats your view son.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Does anybody know what the fastest ever recorded free-kick (that has gone on to directly score, ie no headers) is? I saw the Palermo - Inter game and Zlatan Ibrahimovic's free kick to get his second goal was clocked at 124 km/h (must be about 75 m/ph?), that said I have no idea how reliable such speed guns are.

The other question I have and it has been bugging me for a bit, on Team A if a striker takes a shot towards goal and it deflects off Team B's defender and into the goal, does it count as a goal to the striker as a goal or as an own goal and would said defender be booked?
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Does anybody know what the fastest ever recorded free-kick (that has gone on to directly score, ie no headers) is? I saw the Palermo - Inter game and Zlatan Ibrahimovic's free kick to get his second goal was clocked at 124 km/h (must be about 75 m/ph?), that said I have no idea how reliable such speed guns are.

The other question I have and it has been bugging me for a bit, on Team A if a striker takes a shot towards goal and it deflects off Team B's defender and into the goal, does it count as a goal to the striker as a goal or as an own goal and would said defender be booked?
TBH i think the scores/refreee pick & choose sometimes. Remembering watching a La Liga game last week when Daniel Alves hit a free-kick with HUGE deflection into the net & he was given the goal still. But in other games i've seen own goals given like that too.

Not sure about the defender being booked part though.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Reading got into the top 5 two seaons at any stage & did any major club like the spurs/magpies have such horrific early seasons starts?. Plus when last did Liverpool show so much toughness in the league.

Look i'm finding this season pretty intruiging if you don't, well thats your view son.
Liverpool have shown form that is no different to that they have shown at this stage in previous years.

I'm aware it's your view, and you broadcasting it on the forum is an invitation for me to respond, son.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Does anybody know what the fastest ever recorded free-kick (that has gone on to directly score, ie no headers) is? I saw the Palermo - Inter game and Zlatan Ibrahimovic's free kick to get his second goal was clocked at 124 km/h (must be about 75 m/ph?), that said I have no idea how reliable such speed guns are.

The other question I have and it has been bugging me for a bit, on Team A if a striker takes a shot towards goal and it deflects off Team B's defender and into the goal, does it count as a goal to the striker as a goal or as an own goal and would said defender be booked?
If the shot was going to be on target before the player from the other team got in the way then it will be credited as his goal, if it was going wide and the defender turns it in then it will go down as an own goal...or at least that's my understanding of the rule.
 

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
The other question I have and it has been bugging me for a bit, on Team A if a striker takes a shot towards goal and it deflects off Team B's defender and into the goal, does it count as a goal to the striker as a goal or as an own goal
If it went towards the goalmouth in the first place, it's a goal to the striker, otherwise an own goal.

and would said defender be booked?
Only thing I can think of which would result in a booking would be if he ran within the 9.15 metres he's allowed to be away from the ball. I don't think him contributing towards a goal should change the referee's opportunity of the situation - he's deliberately disturbing the free kick and regardless of the outcome being unfavourable he should be booked.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Interesting one for you lot.

Today, Steve Jennings (despicable character though he is, wears a white shirt) had been booked. He then went flying on one one of the Southend players, for a surefire second booking. However, the ball ran to one of their players, advantage was played, they had a crack, we won the ball back, went upfield...basically it was a while before it went out of play. As we attacked, Jenno was running forwards. I was dying for him to get on the end of one.

If he had scored, you'd have had a situation where he'd have been sent off straight after (as he was when the ball went out for a goal-kick) for an offence he committed prior to scoring. Would be a little, um, strange, and perhaps wrong.

Has it ever actually happened before?
 

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