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*Official* English Football Season 2008-2009

sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
HMm yeah good, point, but despite all that I thought he was quite professional and willing to knuckle down and grin and bare it if he really had to do a job he didn't like. Now its pretty clear he isn't like that, and spent a lot of last season whinging at the club and the other players, and his display at the end of the match with Birmingham was pretty disgraceful to be honest.
 
Craig

Craig

World Traveller
Shaggy Alfresco said:
No, just at Chelsea and Arsenal.
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What about the sooks Anelka has thrown when he wasn't at Arsenal or the likes of Essien threw when he wanted to leave Lyon by black mailing the club to sell him. **** should of had his legs broken and sent back to Ghana :dry:
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
What needs to be remembered is that 80 to 90 percent of this is media bollocks.

That said, with each passing day the prospect of him going to Real is becoming more likely. I still think that if we get offered silly money, we should sell up, though it would have to be silly money to justify it IMO.
 
Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If Ronaldo departs hopefully Rooney can then go back to playing proper football instead of the low percentage flair crap that should be reserved for flashy adverts.
 
roseboy64

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Seems Ronaldo's trying to play both angles. If the deal doesn't work out with Real he'll have some bit of a positive relationship left with the fans. If it does happen, he gets to fulfill his dream. Making a definitive statement nullifies any acceptance from United fans if he doesn't go to Madrid.
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
roseboy64 said:
Seems Ronaldo's trying to play both angles. If the deal doesn't work out with Real he'll have some bit of a positive relationship left with the fans.
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I doubt it, personally I don't have much of a problem with him wanting to play for Madrid (apart from the fact that as a club they're ****s), if he is to leave it will just be a case of thanks for everything he's done for the club from my point of view. However, I feel I'm in the minority here.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Tom Halsey said:
I doubt it, personally I don't have much of a problem with him wanting to play for Madrid (apart from the fact that as a club they're ****s), if he is to leave it will just be a case of thanks for everything he's done for the club from my point of view. However, I feel I'm in the minority here.
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TBH I don't really think you are, most people I have spoken to seem to be of the same opinion as you.

With regards to Roses comment about him not saying anything, i'd put that down to the fact that whilst with Portugal he hasn't wanted to talk/think about that, now that Euro 2008 is over for him he will probably clarify his future in the next couple of weeks.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Ronaldo in "bigger **** than we gave him credit for" shocker. By Daniel Taylor in today's Guardian:

First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water.

In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken.

He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up.

When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog.

It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street.
 
Barney Rubble

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Not surprised by that Ronaldo story, TBH. One of the most detestable men in football gets ever more so.

Interestingly, if Ronaldo leaves Manchester for Madrid he will be the fourth player in the last five years to do so, with nobody having gone the opposite way. David Beckham, Gabriel Heinze, Ruud van Nistelrooy and now Ronaldo have all sought their "dream move" to Madrid at the expense of Fergie's boys - I'd like to see anyone still claim that Manchester United are still the biggest club in the world, given that everyone seems to prefer to play for Real, even when United are European Champions.

Oh, and my two cents on the Ronaldo transfer saga - pretty convinced he's going, glad to see the back of him in the Premiership, and hope United get screwed over as much as possible by the deal. As much as United and Ronaldo deserve each other, United's petty complaining to FIFA about Real's behaviour has really pissed me off. How many smaller clubs have lost their best players when a big club declared interest in the media, and not bleated about it to the authorities? It's the way modern football works. Yet another case of Fergie and United assuming that there are different rules for them. ****s.
 
roseboy64

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Barney Rubble said:
Not surprised by that Ronaldo story, TBH. One of the most detestable men in football gets ever more so.

Interestingly, if Ronaldo leaves Manchester for Madrid he will be the fourth player in the last five years to do so, with nobody having gone the opposite way. David Beckham, Gabriel Heinze, Ruud van Nistelrooy and now Ronaldo have all sought their "dream move" to Madrid at the expense of Fergie's boys - I'd like to see anyone still claim that Manchester United are still the biggest club in the world, given that everyone seems to prefer to play for Real, even when United are European Champions.

Oh, and my two cents on the Ronaldo transfer saga - pretty convinced he's going, glad to see the back of him in the Premiership, and hope United get screwed over as much as possible by the deal. As much as United and Ronaldo deserve each other, United's petty complaining to FIFA about Real's behaviour has really pissed me off. How many smaller clubs have lost their best players when a big club declared interest in the media, and not bleated about it to the authorities? It's the way modern football works. Yet another case of Fergie and United assuming that there are different rules for them. ****s.
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That's completely false and I'd like for you to do some reserach about those transfers before letting your bias get in your way.:@

And the last paragraph, Real Madrid have been unsettling Ronaldo for quite a while now. Those big clubs going in for smaller club's player thing happens only over say a transfer season with maybe one or two mentions during the regular season. Not so with this, Madrid have been making known thier intent for months on end. Completely different. Agree though that big clubs shouldn't be doing that, but it's the same as Barry with Liverpool. Hargreaves case was prolonged because of injury and Bayern trying to get the upper hand. They were always gonna sell him.
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
Barney Rubble said:
Interestingly, if Ronaldo leaves Manchester for Madrid he will be the fourth player in the last five years to do so, with nobody having gone the opposite way. David Beckham, Gabriel Heinze, Ruud van Nistelrooy and now Ronaldo have all sought their "dream move" to Madrid at the expense of Fergie's boys - I'd like to see anyone still claim that Manchester United are still the biggest club in the world, given that everyone seems to prefer to play for Real, even when United are European Champions.
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Not everyone wants to go there, Beckham certainly didn't (well, he chose Real over Barca, but he said he wanted to stay at United had it not been for the fall out), and Heinze only went there because we didn't let him go to the Dips. Ruud is a sketchy one. Ronaldo obviously wants to play there at some point, correct, but that's only one or possibly two out of four.

EDIT: Should point out that I don't deny that Real are a bigger club than us.
 
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