*Official* England's White Ball Tour Of Bangladesh : March 01-14, 2023

[grecian]

Roy
Bairstow
Malan/Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
Brook
I'll get you Buttler
Stokes
Moeen
SCurran
Archer/Wood
Rashid*
Ahmed

?

Root is one of the first names on the team-sheet, Stokes as of yet has not said he'll play, Reckon both Wood and Archer play, you've got three sppiners no need for Ahmed. If Stokes does play then Brook should miss out, in the squad though, I mean Salt and Vince haven't exactly furthered their cause here.

 

[wpdavid]

Yeah, it's a shame about Vince. I keep thinking he's bound to kick on one of these days, but this just seems another opportunity that he hasn't been able to take. Salt otoh just looks really limited. I've lost track of why Hales doesn't play ODIs nowadays, but there's probably a reason somewhere down the line.

 

[grecian]

Yeah, it's a shame about Vince. I keep thinking he's bound to kick on one of these days, but this just seems another opportunity that he hasn't been able to take. Salt otoh just looks really limited. I've lost track of why Hales doesn't play ODIs nowadays, but there's probably a reason somewhere down the line.

Hales just doesn't play the form, and when Bairstow is fit you have the best 50-over opening partnership in certainly Englands history, and maybe the Worlds.

Think Mott has said he hasn't ruled out Hales returning, but honestly with Brook and Root to come back and Malan easily able to play as opener just not really needed. Salt had showed some great form early in his career, so I guess they reckoned he's worth persevering with, I have my doubts like you, and the runs against Netherlands could well have been scored by most.

 

[Ashes81]

Whereas before the 2019 WC we had a very settled side, we haven't been able to do that before this WC as for the most part, half the squad are either being rested or playing/preparing in tests.

There's a few key decisions - who opens with Bairstow, Stokes' role, Malan and/or Root, who will our death bowler be.

Assuming everyone is fit and Stokes can bowl, I'd go
Malan
Bairstow
Root
Brook
Butler
Stokes
Livingstone
Moeen
Curran
Rashid
Archer

 

[grecian]

Whereas before the 2019 WC we had a very settled side, we haven't been able to do that before this WC as for the most part, half the squad are either being rested or playing/preparing in tests.

There's a few key decisions - who opens with Bairstow, Stokes' role, Malan and/or Root, who will our death bowler be.

Assuming everyone is fit and Stokes can bowl, I'd go
Malan
Bairstow
Root
Brook
Butler
Stokes
Livingstone
Moeen
Curran
Rashid
Archer

I mean I know he's a huge talent, but really don't think you can put Brook in the team. Roy and Bairstow will open, Root will play. if they play Brook it'll be at the expense of Malan I'm sure, but that's bloody harsh on him.

Yeah forgot about Livingstone, probably plays and despite me pushing Mark Wood, I guess he's probably going to be superfluous when we have Archer.

I'm worried whether Stokes makes the Ashes TBH, (it all feels quite flintoffy to me) certainly not sure of him at the World Cup, so that's probably why I'm thinking of an extra seamer.

 

[Brook's side]

I mean I know he's a huge talent, but really don't think you can put Brook in the team. Roy and Bairstow will open, Root will play. if they play Brook it'll be at the expense of Malan I'm sure, but that's bloody harsh on him.

Yeah forgot about Livingstone, probably plays and despite me pushing Mark Wood, I guess he's probably going to be superfluous when we have Archer.

I'm worried whether Stokes makes the Ashes TBH, (it all feels quite flintoffy to me) certainly not sure of him at the World Cup, so that's probably why I'm thinking of an extra seamer.

Livingstone just seems to be a massive disappointment to me.

 

[grecian]

Livingstone just seems to be a massive disappointment to me.

Yeah I'm not an huge fan myself, but his 50 over record for England is decent, and he does balance the side well, if Stokes is there. He wouldn't be in my side, but I can see England going for it. in the squad he's gotta be better than Dawson hasn't he, and Ahmed just hasn't had enough time, but hey I suppose it would be Bazball to just throw him in, but at the World Cup we're playing Mottball.

FTR

I'd go

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Malan
Brook
Buttler
Moeen
S Curran
Rashid
Archer
M. Wood

Livingstone
Woakes
**** it Ahmed
Duckett
Topley

and just give the great man a rest, he's retired from 50 over and he's got other things on

 

[Ashes81]

I mean I know he's a huge talent, but really don't think you can put Brook in the team. Roy and Bairstow will open, Root will play. if they play Brook it'll be at the expense of Malan I'm sure, but that's bloody harsh on him.

Yeah forgot about Livingstone, probably plays and despite me pushing Mark Wood, I guess he's probably going to be superfluous when we have Archer.

I'm worried whether Stokes makes the Ashes TBH, (it all feels quite flintoffy to me) certainly not sure of him at the World Cup, so that's probably why I'm thinking of an extra seamer.

I think Roy will open with Bairstow and it'll be either Malan or Brook.

However, I'd open with Malan and play Brook. I know Roy has made a couple of tons recently and it would be harsh to drop him but if its 2 from 3 out of Malan, Roy and Brook, Roy misses out for me.

I love Mark Wood and wouldn't be unhappy if he's in the team and we may play both him and Jofra at times.

 

[grecian]

I think Roy will open with Bairstow and it'll be either Malan or Brook.

However, I'd open with Malan and play Brook. I know Roy has made a couple of tons recently and it would be harsh to drop him but if its 2 from 3 out of Malan, Roy and Brook, Roy misses out for me.

I love Mark Wood and wouldn't be unhappy if he's in the team and we may play both him and Jofra at times.

I think a 50 over world Cup gives you a bit of time though, so go with the safe options and if it isn't going great change it up. Look I really am a believer that Roy is an ATG opener in this form, so the couple of tons recently adds to a really outstanding resume. unfathomable to drop him IMHO.

The Wood thing is all about if Stokes plays, so we'll see on that.

 

[Howe_zat]

I think a 50 over world Cup gives you a bit of time though, so go with the safe options and if it isn't going great change it up. Look I really am a believer that Roy is an ATG opener in this form, so the couple of tons recently adds to a really outstanding resume. unfathomable to drop him IMHO.

The Wood thing is all about if Stokes plays, so we'll see on that.

I think you either have to find room for Livingstone/Jacks or you'd have to bowl Root a bit. Having someone reliably able to bowl 3-6 overs and take some pressure off everyone having to complete 10 is important.

 

[wpdavid]

I think you either have to find room for Livingstone/Jacks or you'd have to bowl Root a bit. Having someone reliably able to bowl 3-6 overs and take some pressure off everyone having to complete 10 is important.

I agree with your second point, but I don't see Livingstone or Jacks replacing anyone in @grecian's top 6, so Root it is.

 

[grecian]

I think you either have to find room for Livingstone/Jacks or you'd have to bowl Root a bit. Having someone reliably able to bowl 3-6 overs and take some pressure off everyone having to complete 10 is important.

I'd have Root and maybe Malan bowl a bit

 

[Nicky]

Yeah I'm not an huge fan myself, but his 50 over record for England is decent, and he does balance the side well, if Stokes is there. He wouldn't be in my side, but I can see England going for it. in the squad he's gotta be better than Dawson hasn't he, and Ahmed just hasn't had enough time, but hey I suppose it would be Bazball to just throw him in, but at the World Cup we're playing Mottball.

FTR

I'd go

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Malan
Brook
Buttler
Moeen
S Curran
Rashid
Archer
M. Wood

Livingstone
Woakes
**** it Ahmed
Duckett
Topley

and just give the great man a rest, he's retired from 50 over and he's got other things on

That would be my XI too!
I think Malan & Root are perfect for ODI with their ability to cement an innings and to accelerate whenever they want. This middle order of Root, Malan & Brook is scary! To go along with the best ODI openers and Buttler, Ali & Curran to finish things off...
England might be missing an extra allrounder, but I guess with the quality of this attack, they can afford counting on Root & Malan for extra bowling options if needed ?
Or is there a case for having 3 spinners in India ? In that case, who would make way ? Wood ? And who would be first on the list to come in ? Jacks ? Livingstone ? Ahmed ?

 

[Brook's side]

Yeah I'm not an huge fan myself, but his 50 over record for England is decent, and he does balance the side well, if Stokes is there. He wouldn't be in my side, but I can see England going for it. in the squad he's gotta be better than Dawson hasn't he, and Ahmed just hasn't had enough time, but hey I suppose it would be Bazball to just throw him in, but at the World Cup we're playing Mottball.

FTR

I'd go

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Malan
Brook
Buttler
Moeen
S Curran
Rashid
Archer
M. Wood

Livingstone
Woakes
**** it Ahmed
Duckett
Topley

and just give the great man a rest, he's retired from 50 over and he's got other things on

very good 11 that.

 

[Brook's side]

That would be my XI too!
I think Malan & Root are perfect for ODI with their ability to cement an innings and to accelerate whenever they want. This middle order of Root, Malan & Brook is scary! To go along with the best ODI openers and Buttler, Ali & Curran to finish things off...
England might be missing an extra allrounder, but I guess with the quality of this attack, they can afford counting on Root & Malan for extra bowling options if needed ?
Or is there a case for having 3 spinners in India ? In that case, who would make way ? Wood ? And who would be first on the list to come in ? Jacks ? Livingstone ? Ahmed ?

Not sure Archer's likely to be particularly suited to India tbh.

 

[Socerer 01]

Not sure Archer's likely to be particularly suited to India tbh.

why do you think so

 

[Brook's side]

why do you think so

I'd forgotten about his pretty strong IPL record actually.

 

[Howe_zat]

Jacks going home injured. They've not bothered to replace him with anyone so I guess Rehan Ahmed or Woakes plays as a 7 in the third match. Gives us a rather short btting lineup for the T20 series too.

Unfortunate for him - they could've given him a go up the order for the dead rubber.

 

[Ashes81]

Pity about Jacks - he needs as much game time as possible in the SC if he's to play a part in the WC.

Personally I think he's still a bit raw and better suited to T20 than ODI's.

I'd pick Livingstone ahead of him for the WC.

 

[Howe_zat]

Archer, Woakes and Ahmed in for Wood, Mahmood and Jacks. Curran apparently down to bat at 5.

Bangladesh choosing to bat which is probably because India piled up 400 on them in the last game on this pitch.