superkingdave
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Willis tearing in to Harper in the break
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*Official* England in West Indies
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four_or_six
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Bob Willis 
Woodster
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Not a fan of this referral system at the minute. That session was particularly stop and start. The other thing supposedly in its favour is it gives you more correct decisions, but does it ? Who's to say that Harmison should not have been given that wicket ? There wasn't conclusive evidence to overrule the umpires initial decision, as Goughy said, and Hawkeye predicts it was hitting the stump. The rule should be amended,to ultimately give the correct decision.
Add to the fact that with England only having one more left to use, they will be wary when to use it, had Broad's LBW shout on Sarwan been referred, would that have been given out ? As it is, strictly speaking I suppose it was out, not out was given, so it was conceivably another wrong decision.
Tony Hill isn't sure if he's coming or going with his decisions being overturned, he must be losing a bit of confidence in his decision making.
This referral system is there to overrule blatant wrong decisions, not borderline ones. Therefore a wrong call should be met with a more suitable punishment. For example if a batsman knows he has not hit it, he calls for the third umpire, it is quickly overruled, as it is a blatant mistake, and we move on. Should they choose to go for a third referral and it is unsuccessful, ie they are trying it on a little, something like a 30 run penalty should be awarded, just a thought ?
Add to the fact that with England only having one more left to use, they will be wary when to use it, had Broad's LBW shout on Sarwan been referred, would that have been given out ? As it is, strictly speaking I suppose it was out, not out was given, so it was conceivably another wrong decision.
Tony Hill isn't sure if he's coming or going with his decisions being overturned, he must be losing a bit of confidence in his decision making.
This referral system is there to overrule blatant wrong decisions, not borderline ones. Therefore a wrong call should be met with a more suitable punishment. For example if a batsman knows he has not hit it, he calls for the third umpire, it is quickly overruled, as it is a blatant mistake, and we move on. Should they choose to go for a third referral and it is unsuccessful, ie they are trying it on a little, something like a 30 run penalty should be awarded, just a thought ?
Evermind
International Debutant
I agree with most of this post - the referral system needs to be fine tuned quite a bit more before it's gonna be effective.
But 30 runs? That's gonna be half the innings score for some matches in NZ.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Well that was an interesting session from an England POV
Sidebottom bowled one of the more toothless opening spells you will see. Economical but never threatening and bowling in the wrong areas
Flintoff was probably the pick and as usual the game bristles with energy when he is involved.
Harmison bowled very well and hit the splice and most importantly forced the batsmen to play everything
Broad was all over the place. Its hard to see what he brings. Lacks the accuracy of Sidebottom to make up for the lack of penetration.
Panesar didnt realy bowl enough to make comments. There was encouragement but only a bit.
Sidebottom bowled one of the more toothless opening spells you will see. Economical but never threatening and bowling in the wrong areas
Flintoff was probably the pick and as usual the game bristles with energy when he is involved.
Harmison bowled very well and hit the splice and most importantly forced the batsmen to play everything
Broad was all over the place. Its hard to see what he brings. Lacks the accuracy of Sidebottom to make up for the lack of penetration.
Panesar didnt realy bowl enough to make comments. There was encouragement but only a bit.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Waiting for the first batsman to refer a not out decision. Will be a moment to remember.
Woodster
International Captain
It may be excessive mate, but the referrals should only be used when its obvious, so they will rarely be penalised. I was just putting it out there.
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That's why they've reduced it from 3 to 2 per innings.
andruid
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Seriously if you hate this kid so bad go book a ticket to the windies and stab him. I'll even vouch to do time for conspiracy to commit murder if they catch you. GOSH!
Never gonna happen, Gilchrist retired.
tooextracool
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Wow Monty actually tossing a ball up, might snow in the caribbean tonight.
Looks a far better bowler already.
Looks a far better bowler already.
Goughy
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superkingdave
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Pretty tepid stuff from England after tea, going through the motions at the moment, rather hoping that WI will throw their wickets away. Still 2 wickets to get before we even get Chanders to the crease.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
Yup. Not sure why Broad is bowling ahead of Sidebottom and Harmison either.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Striving for swing, perhaps the right move considering he is just medium pace and the pitch is quite slow.