*Official* England in West Indies

[gvenkat]

I agree, that's got the bottom of the middle and index fingers - but on the TV replay with the foreshortening effect, you just cannot give that out.

For the record, and before anyone mentions anything, the third umpire is West Indian.

And he didnt see flintoff stamping the rope earlier.. so no reason to give this out...

 

[GIMH]

I thought the Flintoff catch was out, FTR

 

[four_or_six]

I thought the Flintoff catch was out, FTR

100% out.

 

[Neil Pickup]

100% out.

Not convinced... sometimes I saw a ripple, sometimes not - depended where and when you were focusing on what.

Incidentally, am I the only one who still thinks we're highly likely to jib this?

 

[gvenkat]

100% out.

how is that 100% out.. didnt u see his boot touching that boundary tags? how else could they have moved other than the boot touching it?

 

[gvenkat]

Not convinced... sometimes I saw a ripple, sometimes not - depended where and when you were focusing on what.

Incidentally, am I the only one who still thinks we're highly likely to jib this?

unless england do a westindies here and collapse.. i dont see them losing this...

 

[four_or_six]

Not convinced... sometimes I saw a ripple, sometimes not - depended where and when you were focusing on what.

Incidentally, am I the only one who still thinks we're highly likely to jib this?

Ye of little faith. We'll be fiiiiiiiine.

 

[Scaly piscine]

England are so unbelievably dire against dobber bowling.

Anyway I do agree that 135 off 20 is easier than 240 off 50. I think about 145-155 would have been about right.

I'd say 250-300 is par for 50 overs on a standard limited overs track and 160-180 for 20 overs.

 

[grecian]

unless england do a westindies here and collapse.. i dont see them losing this...

Hey we were collapsing pitifully and making easy totals seem hard, decades before Windies were doing it

 

[Evermind]

WI RR: 4.60

Eng RRR: 6.75

How's that easy? 47% more runs PER OVER. More than makes up for the 10-wicket advantage IMO.

 

[superkingdave]

Six count is still something like 30 vs 1 in the series isn't it?

 

[gvenkat]

Hey we were collapsing pitifully and making easy totals seem hard, decades before Windies were doing it

I hear u mate.. a wicket and england could still make heavy weather of it..

 

[superkingdave]

IF we take proper advantage of the two remaining power play overs we should win pretty easily...big if though

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

What's going on? We might win a game? Was watching Ecuador-Brazil, then realised there might be a possibility of the cricket being back on.

 

[gvenkat]

IF we take proper advantage of the two remaining power play overs we should win pretty easily...big if though

I think there is just one powerplay left?

 

[roseboy64]

Taken.

 

[superkingdave]

I think there is just one powerplay left?

One powerplay of two overs isn't it?

 

[superkingdave]

England's second six of the series...

 

[gvenkat]

Taken.

All PP done? Ok This is finished now..

 

[ozone]

Ha, who needs pinch hitters.