Tom Halsey
International Coach
Ouch.
Moving away from that incident, Tres appears to be hitting form. Played some very good shots.
Moving away from that incident, Tres appears to be hitting form. Played some very good shots.
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**Official** England in The West Indies
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Tom Halsey
International Coach
Vaughan gone. 52/1.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Trescothick hitting runs... not long to go for them now...
This is fairytale stuff for England.. I really dont know what to say about the west indies...
This is fairytale stuff for England.. I really dont know what to say about the west indies...
Langeveldt
Soutie
Tres gone!!
Panic stations....
Panic stations....
Langeveldt
Soutie
And thats clinical stuff from England, congratulations...
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
I know something you don't know.....
The last time England won a series in the West Indies before today was in 1968.
Big deal, you say.
The final test that year started on 28 March
So? You ask.
Who was born on 28 March, 1968?
Who was at the non-striker's end today?
The same person. Nasser Hussain.
The last time England won a series in the West Indies before today was in 1968.
Big deal, you say.
The final test that year started on 28 March
So? You ask.
Who was born on 28 March, 1968?
Who was at the non-striker's end today?
The same person. Nasser Hussain.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Clever stuff....luckyeddie said:
Langeveldt
Soutie
Where to now for the west indies?
They have gone from being poor in South Africa to completely spineless against England...
Now their old guard arent doing much, who is going to pull them out of the mire??
Im tempted to say that if Streak stays with Zim, they are a stronger bet than the West Indies (on present form).... Thats quite a startling thing to be saying, from someone who has grown up listening to Lara, Richardson, Hooper, Ambrose, Walsh etc.. but i think it holds some truth...
Even Bangladesh gave England a better fight...
They have gone from being poor in South Africa to completely spineless against England...
Now their old guard arent doing much, who is going to pull them out of the mire??
Im tempted to say that if Streak stays with Zim, they are a stronger bet than the West Indies (on present form).... Thats quite a startling thing to be saying, from someone who has grown up listening to Lara, Richardson, Hooper, Ambrose, Walsh etc.. but i think it holds some truth...
Even Bangladesh gave England a better fight...
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
It's a really tough call, as on paper that team is quite scary... I mean you look down it and Gayle, Lara, Sarwan, Chanderpaul etc is a formidable batting line up and the bowlers certianly look good for the long term with a bit of coaching... Best, Edwards, Collins, Collymore have made life hard for the English batsman more than once.Langeveldt said:
However do you say ok you've had your chances and now I don't care who you are if your playing bad your going to be dropped and start afresh with a new young team and go and build fully around players like Sarwan, Best, Edwards etc
There has also been many comments that the West Indies set up is wrong, in that with Lara the Cap and Viv Richards the Selector how do you tell them they are wrong? I heard the coach really wantted Powell in ahead of Ganga this match but we all saw who played, also Richards etc could be made so much more usfull helping develop the young lads into world beaters just like he was.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Liam, are you alright??? That was an absolute mullering...
Rich, i dont think dropping some of the good players they have will help them...
If they start from scratch, around a few current players, there is an absolutely massive chance of complete failure.. (even more chronic than now)
Rich, i dont think dropping some of the good players they have will help them...
If they start from scratch, around a few current players, there is an absolutely massive chance of complete failure.. (even more chronic than now)
Tom Halsey
International Coach
And that would be difficult to achieve!!
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
well, a few months ago they were down and out against the Aussies - then they broke the world record for the greatest-ever successful run chase.Rich2001 said:I spoke to Liam earlier and asked him that question and he replied with these things happen, however I don't think he was impressed with "What 3 times in a row" as he went offline
What we've got is a collection of individuals with plenty of talent, absolutely no team spirit and no confidence. If England do the same again to them next week, you start adding 'no stomach for a fight, no spine, no pride' and the like, because comparing the two teams, there's not that much between them on ability.
I reckon they should all go away tonight, drink a bottle of rum apiece, smoke a 5-skinner and come out fighting next time.
badgerhair
U19 Vice-Captain
The biggest difference between the sides is this:
The ECB has spent several years restructuring the domestic game and the coaching structure, employing the kind of backup staff who can contribute to the national team, and driving home the message all round the English game that what matters is the national team, and subordinating everything to the end of making it the best team they can.
The people involved are all focused on that aim, and are not attempting to use it to improve their own personal political positions.
None of this is true of the WICB.
And our players go out on the field knowing that everyone is behind them and that nobody is asking them to do any more than play the best cricket they can, and that they won't be shot until they've *proved* they no longer any use, while the WI players go out not knowing which faction in the Board is going to try and get rid of them even if they score a hundred.
It's actually my hypothesis, which is becoming firmer the more observations I make, that almost the biggest determinant of the result of a Test series is the relative degree of unity in the respective boards of control.
Cheers,
Mike
The ECB has spent several years restructuring the domestic game and the coaching structure, employing the kind of backup staff who can contribute to the national team, and driving home the message all round the English game that what matters is the national team, and subordinating everything to the end of making it the best team they can.
The people involved are all focused on that aim, and are not attempting to use it to improve their own personal political positions.
None of this is true of the WICB.
And our players go out on the field knowing that everyone is behind them and that nobody is asking them to do any more than play the best cricket they can, and that they won't be shot until they've *proved* they no longer any use, while the WI players go out not knowing which faction in the Board is going to try and get rid of them even if they score a hundred.
It's actually my hypothesis, which is becoming firmer the more observations I make, that almost the biggest determinant of the result of a Test series is the relative degree of unity in the respective boards of control.
Cheers,
Mike