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**Official** England in The West Indies

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Langeveldt said:
Thats quite funny :lol: What are they going to send for Irani to bat at three if he gets injured??? :lol: lol

And tooextracool, Anderson has already proved himself... He just needs to rediscover that form...
Reproduced from Devid Ducky's Diary, some time a long while ago.... the argument still stands

Sunday, May 18, 2003

Dear Diary :

Well, the ECB selectors have finally done it - they have united the country in one fell swoop. When the test squad to face Zimbabwe at Lords was announced at 10.30 yesterday morning, cricket-lovers from Carlisle to Penzance scanned the list of names for their favourites.

The expected names were there - you could almost picture the lips moving in unison.... Nasser? Check! Jimmy Anderson? Check! Harmison? Check! Butcher? Check!. McGrath? Hurriedly click on Ananova 'News', unsuccessfully scan for report that Aussie opening sledger extraordinaire has started drinking Stones instead of Fosters (OK, it's not THAT easy to qualify for British nationality - just ask Graeme Hick. He had to drink the stuff for five years before they let him in - but you get the idea). Back to Cricinfo, 'England', 'Players', 'M', 'McGrath' - Ohhhhhhhhh, him! Back to the squad, look further.

Suddenly, a collective sigh of relief escapes the lips of the nation. No Rampers. Back to McGrath, click on averages, back to Yorkshire's game against Northants. Hmmmmm. No clues there, so let's invent a time machine (for want of a better thing to do).

Slowly, the dials turn, then faster, faster. Day turns to night, back to day again. The seasons change, all becomes a blur as we race headlong, spinning almost out of control. Suddenly, everything becomes clear again. We look around - there are two gentlemen in the room. It is breakfast time.

Picture the scene, in another time, at 221B Baker Street over a fine spread of kippers, kedgeree, devilled kidneys and cocaine.
<Watson> "Something troubling you, Holmes?"
<Holmes> "Not at all, Watson. Just perusing the sporting column in the Gazette."
<Watson> "Has the squad been announced, old man?"
<Holmes> "Yes. A few surprises, to boot. I see they've selected McGrath."
<Watson> (horrified) "The foul-mouthed convict? The last I heard of him, he was on his way to Botany Bay in chains."
<Holmes> "No, not Glenn, my dear stout fellow. A flat-capped, unwashed Johnny from the sticks called Anthony."
<Watson> "By Jove, Holmes! Whatever could possess those upstanding gentlemen from Thomas Lord's neck of the woods to pick him - a - a - (gulp) Yorkshireman?"
<Holmes> "McGrath's tedious scoring rate of late makes that of the venerable captain, Lord Nasser of Hussain, look good. Besides, it's all part of the big plan."
<Watson> "I appreciate that the ponderous rate at which the northern oaf in question accumulates his notches hardly troubles the scorer's penknife, and even pales into insignificance in comparison to that of our esteemed leader, but what is this big plan you refer to, Holmes?"
<Holmes> (takes long, satisfying draw on Meerschaum pipe) "The plan, Watson, that paves the way for the return of that fine gentleman of breeding Mark Ramprakash for the second test match - as replacement for said McGrath, of course."
<Watson> "I don't understand, old bean."
<Holmes> (dons Deerstalker hat, prepares to depart for a second breakfast at the Diogenes Club) "After this announcement, nothing emanating from the ECB will ever seem a surprise again, hence the Earl of Rampers will be able to return to the fold almost unnoticed, and what is more, without all the frightful embarrassment of riots in the streets, the burning of effigies, questions in the House and all the usual cheap tactics the hoi-polloi resort to when they disagree with authority. England will therefore become great again - a land fit for gentlemen to grow old in."
<Watson> "Capital idea, Holmes!"
<Holmes> "Elementary, my dear Watson. Oh, and Watson..."
<Watson> "Holmes?"
<Holmes> "Whose glowing duck is that in the corner of the room?"
 

badgerhair

U19 Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
Replacing whom?
Alamgir Kabir, I should think. Craig didn't specify which country he thought Kirtley should play for, and since there's obviously no space for a mediocrity like Kirtley in the England Test side unless the injury list reverts back to telephone directory size, he must have meant someone else's.

Cheers,

Mike
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Langeveldt said:
And tooextracool, Anderson has already proved himself... He just needs to rediscover that form...
i dont think that getting wickets in seamer friendly conditions as he did in the wc under those floodlights could be counted as proving himself. it seems that in the same wc in his golden period when he came across a decent batting wicket against australia he ended up getting smashed for 6 by bichel and struggled throughout the match.
 

spofta

Banned
Personally i dont think that Andrew Flintoff is test class. He is a County Player definatly not worthy of a test position. He is a aweful batsmen and his bowling is nothing more that crap. He has a few flaws in his techniques for batting that could easily be exposed. His bowling is aweful he should be dropped.
 

Richard Rash

U19 Cricketer
He is as average as Murphey Sua. There is no way that he should be really holding a place in the england side and he should surely be looking over his shoulder in terms of a test position. Also Michael Vaughen Is surely about to be dropped. I would bring back Michael Atherton personally. England Have got big problems I would rate Zimbabwe above them at the present time. Good post spofta
 
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Craig

World Traveller
Richard Rash said:
He is as average as Murphey Sua. There is no way that he should be really holding a place in the england side and he should surely be looking over his shoulder in terms of a test position. Also Michael Vaughen Is surely about to be dropped. I would bring back Michael Atherton personally. England Have got big problems I would rate Zimbabwe above them at the present time. Good post spofta
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

With an average like Vaughan's and is captain I dont think so. There is absolutely positively zilch chance we will see Atherton playing for England again (unless it is the Golden Oldies :P :D )

And doesnt England lead the series 2-0 and thus cant lose the series anyway?

*scratches head*
 

Swervy

International Captain
Craig said:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

With an average like Vaughan's and is captain I dont think so. There is absolutely positively zilch chance we will see Atherton playing for England again (unless it is the Golden Oldies :P :D )

And doesnt England lead the series 2-0 and thus cant lose the series anyway?

*scratches head*

there has been a strong suggestion that Atherton WILL come out of retirement for the NZ series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Richard Rash said:
He is as average as Murphey Sua. There is no way that he should be really holding a place in the england side and he should surely be looking over his shoulder in terms of a test position. Also Michael Vaughen Is surely about to be dropped. I would bring back Michael Atherton personally. England Have got big problems I would rate Zimbabwe above them at the present time. Good post spofta
Which member of the double-act are you - Morecambe or Wise?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
spofta said:
Personally i dont think that Andrew Flintoff is test class. He is a County Player definatly not worthy of a test position. He is a aweful batsmen and his bowling is nothing more that crap. He has a few flaws in his techniques for batting that could easily be exposed. His bowling is aweful he should be dropped.
And you base this great analysis of him on what exactly?

Have you seen him play?
 

badgerhair

U19 Vice-Captain
spofta said:
Personally i dont think that Andrew Flintoff is test class. He is a County Player definatly not worthy of a test position. He is a aweful batsmen and his bowling is nothing more that crap. He has a few flaws in his techniques for batting that could easily be exposed. His bowling is aweful he should be dropped.
Excellent. I always find it so helpful when a newcomer announces that they know absolutely nothing about cricket and that their "opinions" can safely be ignored.

Cheers,

Mike
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
The Smiths are out of the picture for West Indies, but there's no need for Panic on the streets of Bridgetown because Daren Ganga is back. After his numerous chances, none of which have been taken, I really can't believe This......(it's just) Charming, Man . Well, I suppose if Everyday is Like Sunday at Sabina, it won't matter who plays.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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I think my views on Daren Ganga have been heard loud enough already, but I must say that I'd take him ahead of Dwayne Smith.
 

scrumpy

Cricket Spectator
OK, let`s assume for the moment that Flintoff keeps his place, and Atherton stays in the press box, what about Chris Read? The only runs he`s made this winter have been against Bangladesh, a couple of 30s. It seems he`s running out of chances. With Geraint Jones making 66 in the last match, there`s definitely pressure on him. How long do you persevere with a number seven who averages 13 in Tests?
 

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