**Official** England in The West Indies

[Neil Pickup]

Good bounce and carry, bit of seam movement, Hoggard's swinging it.

Sarwan lbw b Hoggard 0

West Indies 22/2

 

[PY]

Two down! Now comes the real test, a certain BC Lara, averages 76 on this ground apparently.Should be fun....

Averages 75.93 against England in the Caribbean.

Harmo has 'em dancing at the moment. 8D

 

[twctopcat]

Talk about chin music

 

[PY]

Edges flying everywhere at the moment......:!(

 

[Neil Pickup]

Are these West Indian batsmen actually able to use the middle of the bat?

Harmo is bowling so well at the minute, he could've had four!

So many going through the slips, in the words of Arnold Judas Rimmer, the jammy goits.

 

[tooextracool]

Are these West Indian batsmen actually able to use the middle of the bat?

Harmo is bowling so well at the minute, he could've had four!

So many going through the slips, in the words of Arnold Judas Rimmer, the jammy goits.

wow the conditions dont seem to be too good for batting....is this the pitch doing tricks, good bowling or poor batting?

 

[twctopcat]

Are these West Indian batsmen actually able to use the middle of the bat?

Harmo is bowling so well at the minute, he could've had four!

So many going through the slips, in the words of Arnold Judas Rimmer, the jammy goits.

Ahhhhhh! Need skysports again, missing all this action, you watching all of it then neil? Thought u were in your 1st year at exeter?

 

[Neil Pickup]

Ahhhhhh! Need skysports again, missing all this action, you watching all of it then neil? Thought u were in your 1st year at exeter?

I've got all that off TalkSport, and I'm going to miss 5pm-6pm, as I have an Xpression committee meeting..

 

[twctopcat]

I've got all that off TalkSport, and I'm going to miss 5pm-6pm, as I have an Xpression committee meeting..

Tut, tut, not a true fan to let such trivial events get in the way of cricket. :P

 

[PY]

Jones nips out Lara to make his comeback all the more sweeter.

73/3 (22.2 overs)

Smith 39*
Chanderpaul 0*

Flintoff is looking dangerous as well now.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

great morning for england considering they lost the toss.
Lets hope we can build on this after lunch and keep WI to under 250.

 

[tooextracool]

flintoff is bowling at 90mph???thats rare....can somebody describe the delivery that got brian lara out?poor shot or good ball?
how fast in jones bowling at?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Just a very good ball. Jones is bowling about 85-88mph mostly.

 

[marc71178]

Are these West Indian batsmen actually able to use the middle of the bat?

Harmo is bowling so well at the minute, he could've had four!

Impossible.

It must all be bad batting.

 

[marc71178]

Tut, tut, not a true fan to let such trivial events get in the way of cricket. :P

He has scheduled it got the Lunch interval to be fair!!!

 

[Richard]

Read this thread before you make a fool out of yourself please.

Or ideally don't.
Then it might make your silly attempts to make me look silly look even more silly.
Silly fools.

 

[Richard]

On wickets with some seam and some grass, Dwayne Smith is more then a handy bowler.

Not much of a batsman, though.

 

[Richard]

No, all you can say for certain is that there were less let-offs reported in those days.

Without seeing all the games, you cannot claim anything else as certain.

If you want to go down that route, I can just bring-up the thing with Corey again - nothing is certain. However, I have made it, I consider, as certain as it is possible to make that the fact that less missed chances were reported means less missed chances occurred.
In some cases I've used tape evidence to cross-referance, too. Wherever I can.

 

[Richard]

I don't remember you saying this.

What do you do then in this unkept average to a batsman that is sawn off?

The first-chance average:
When a batsman should have been caught, stumped or lbw, he shall hence be counted as out from this point.
When a batsman has been run-out when the run-out was not his fault or when he has been given out incorrectly, this innings shall count as a not-out.
It really is as simple as that. It surely goes without saying that if you're going to take account of unfair let-offs, you should take account of unfair saw-offs, too?
If I've honestly never mentioned this, that is why.
And I'm perfectly well aware of the fact that let-off and saw-off can't be said for certain - but disagreeance is so rare as to make it not to be worried about.

 

[Richard]

Harmison strikes!

Gayle well and truly done up by a beauty and he chops it onto his own stumps.

8D

A beauty!
A straight ball which Gayle plays a horrid, ugly angled-bat chop and plays it on.
That's how I'd describe it.