Mr Mxyzptlk
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More like an assault on Batty's head!Revelation said:
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Neil Pickup
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I know, just winding you up.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
I saw the "catch" multiple times in the pub whilst waiting for them to put Chester v Exeter on the big screen and I'd never have given it. Ask anyone I've umpired - me and caught behinds don't go together.
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Lack of other people to do it!roseboy64 said:
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And people jump on Richard...
Pratters
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I have told you before but will one last time.Richard said:
In all sport, chance is offered and some are taken, some are not. The ones which maximise what comes their way are eventual winners. Luck, chance are a part of sport. It should not be held against a top notch inning or batsman if he offered a chance, the opposition didnt take it and he went on to score a brilliant 100.
Even a sport like golf offerc chances. You hit a bad shot, the opposition players offer a worse shot and yuo have a chance to win later.
Sport is more about killer instinct when faced with various situations. Chances have to be grabbed. A dropped chance is no different.
Richard
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And I've told you that you place too much emphasis on the "loveliness" of risk-taking.
Being a great sportsman is about minimising the risks - doing the stuff best without needing to risk losing it.
Golf is totally different - it's much less quantifiable than cricket, very simple (as one-man sports tend to be) whoever plays the exact same stuff the best wins.
The idea of batting is to score runs. You can't score runs if you get out, so it's about not getting out.
It's nothing to the credit of a batsman if he gets himself out and the fielder (or Umpire) isn't good enough to complete the dismissal.
Hence, the way to judge a batsman is on how many runs he has earnt, not got against his name.
You're quite right in that fielding is all about taking chances when they come - but batsmanship is about not giving the chances (ie not getting out).
You seem to place more emphasis on the fielding aspect dropped catches when all I ever talk about is it's effect on the batsman.
Being a great sportsman is about minimising the risks - doing the stuff best without needing to risk losing it.
Golf is totally different - it's much less quantifiable than cricket, very simple (as one-man sports tend to be) whoever plays the exact same stuff the best wins.
The idea of batting is to score runs. You can't score runs if you get out, so it's about not getting out.
It's nothing to the credit of a batsman if he gets himself out and the fielder (or Umpire) isn't good enough to complete the dismissal.
Hence, the way to judge a batsman is on how many runs he has earnt, not got against his name.
You're quite right in that fielding is all about taking chances when they come - but batsmanship is about not giving the chances (ie not getting out).
You seem to place more emphasis on the fielding aspect dropped catches when all I ever talk about is it's effect on the batsman.
Pratters
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Haha I have placed no importance to the loveliness of risk taking. Its about how many runs you score in the end. If it works for a player to take risks and he makes more runs that way, good for him. If there are no risks, there are no rewards. Some take more and some less risk. In the end if you are making runs continuuosly, its bull **** to say a player is not good enough just because he offers more chances.Richard said:
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Beyond Offa's Dyke.Swervy said:
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Richard
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No, if a player is scoring runs without giving the chance of dismissal they're good enough.Pratyush said:
If they're not actually scoring runs through their own good play and are simply being given opportunities others are getting far less of it's bullsh|t to say he is good enough.
Risk-taking isn't giving chances; that's suicide. Risk-taking is hitting the ball in the air (well, that's the biggest risk-take) and it's no surprise that most of the best batsmen rarely hit the ball in the air deliberately.