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**Official** England in the West Indies 2013-14
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Bresnans tickle to fine leg off Narines last over iirc.
flibbertyjibber
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Glad I watched Jonathon Creek instead.
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GIMH
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We had to play the game rather than relying on the pools panel verdict. What would Mourinho think?
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They did an England......just as you predicted they would.
theegyptian
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Bowling and battting again not good enough(obviously).
The bowling especially lacks incision. A fast bowler or mystery spinner. Too often teams are in trouble against us and then manage to get to competitive scores. 40-4 and you should win nearly all the time. Same bowling second. There's no-one to bowl similarly to what Narine did today. No incision. No potential to bowl teams out. They try to stifle teams but they're not even good at that - and it can be countered by good play from the opposition. There's a real lack of one day bowling talent in England.
You can't do much without the players but they've got to look at their tactics of containment when they get in front of teams when bowling. Rather than let them get an average 250 having had them 80-4 they've gotta find some way of being more aggresive. The powerplay and then only 4 fielders outside the field in normal overs allows teams to go massive in the last 15 if they can rebuild so it's not enough to keep it tight for 35 overs. But again it's tough without the players and especially in series where players are rested - you're going to get exposed.
The batting today was sadly predictable. Missing a few key players (not that they've done much better when Morgan, Bell, Cook, Trott have been there of late). They were always going to be reliant on Root and Buttler today and whilst in the future I feel they will both be big players for England in this format they don't quite have the class or experience at present. Bopara should be able to do more but we know he can't - and yet he's probably still worth his spot in the team - who are we going to replace him with - Luke Wright? lol. Bresnan is so bad but again is probably worth his spot in the team.
Buttler should have come in when Stokes came in. Buttler has the ability unlike some of the others to play under pressure and build an innings and then accelerate. He needs more overs to bat, not less. Anytime on from about the 28th over is good for Buttler imo. Stokes always has been a poor ODI bat.
Oh well. Least I'll say congrats to Lumb. Played really well and I bet he never thought this day would come in his career. Even though he got out at an inopportune time that innings was about as much as England could ask from him.
Like to see Gurney for the next game at least to offer a different angle but given he isn't selected for the world t20s that seems unlikely.
The bowling especially lacks incision. A fast bowler or mystery spinner. Too often teams are in trouble against us and then manage to get to competitive scores. 40-4 and you should win nearly all the time. Same bowling second. There's no-one to bowl similarly to what Narine did today. No incision. No potential to bowl teams out. They try to stifle teams but they're not even good at that - and it can be countered by good play from the opposition. There's a real lack of one day bowling talent in England.
You can't do much without the players but they've got to look at their tactics of containment when they get in front of teams when bowling. Rather than let them get an average 250 having had them 80-4 they've gotta find some way of being more aggresive. The powerplay and then only 4 fielders outside the field in normal overs allows teams to go massive in the last 15 if they can rebuild so it's not enough to keep it tight for 35 overs. But again it's tough without the players and especially in series where players are rested - you're going to get exposed.
The batting today was sadly predictable. Missing a few key players (not that they've done much better when Morgan, Bell, Cook, Trott have been there of late). They were always going to be reliant on Root and Buttler today and whilst in the future I feel they will both be big players for England in this format they don't quite have the class or experience at present. Bopara should be able to do more but we know he can't - and yet he's probably still worth his spot in the team - who are we going to replace him with - Luke Wright? lol. Bresnan is so bad but again is probably worth his spot in the team.
Buttler should have come in when Stokes came in. Buttler has the ability unlike some of the others to play under pressure and build an innings and then accelerate. He needs more overs to bat, not less. Anytime on from about the 28th over is good for Buttler imo. Stokes always has been a poor ODI bat.
Oh well. Least I'll say congrats to Lumb. Played really well and I bet he never thought this day would come in his career. Even though he got out at an inopportune time that innings was about as much as England could ask from him.
Like to see Gurney for the next game at least to offer a different angle but given he isn't selected for the world t20s that seems unlikely.
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Scaly piscine
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Because Bopara is there to finish games off apparently whilst they draw the rest of the batting order out of a hat.