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*Official* England in Sri Lanka

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Mr. P

International Vice-Captain
Play has resumed against Sri Lanka presidents board. They have added 6 runs for no wickets.
 
Craig

Craig

World Traveller
How unbalanced is the England side?:

MA Butcher, N Hussain (he is opening), GP Thorpe, CMW Read (playing as a batsman), *A Flintoff (he is captain - what the?), GJ Batty, AF Giles, RDB Croft, +GO Jones, MJ Hoggard, RJ Kirtley.

Surprised at playing 3 spinners, Hussain opening (he made a duck), Flintoff captaining (I thought Hussain or Butcher would captain), and two 'keepers.

Definatly shocked that Clarke or Collingwood arent playing.
 
Neil Pickup

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It's a friendly! It's for the Test specialists to get some match practice having missed the ODI series.

201/4 Butcher 92*, Batty 1*
 
Mr Mxyzptlk

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Craig said:
(I thought Hussain or Butcher would captain)
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It makes no sense letting Hussain captain. There is very little likelihood that he will ever captain England again.
 
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badgerhair

U19 Vice-Captain
Tim said:
Yeah not much sense there....what happened to Trescothick?
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Trescothick scored plenty of runs in Bangladesh and therefore isn't playing.

But I doubt he would captain even if he were playing: he's captained England in some tour matches and ODIs before and shown himself to be pretty poor.

However, this highlights the advancing age of the top order: all five of them have captained Englad in one or other form of the game, but one of them are going to outlast Vaughan.

So it makes sense to see which of the present crew might make a future captain and at the moment only Flintoff and presumably Read are guaranteed places for the foreseeable future, since we have about six bowlers chasing four places at any one moment.

Cheers,

Mike
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Trescothick is having a break - fair enough, he's been playing recently, Hussain and Thorpe need a game.

Flintoff as captain is a sensible thing IMO - give him responsibility and see how he copes (lets face it, what would we learn from Butcher or Hussain doing the job?)
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
badgerhair said:
But I doubt he would captain even if he were playing: he's captained England in some tour matches and ODIs before and shown himself to be pretty poor.
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He looks to show promise as a future captain, if you ask me
 
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Legglancer

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halsey said:
Are you going nuts?:lol:
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My nuts regressed to thier original neanderthal state for a period (thankfully not too long). All is back in order now.

It seems to be caused by my reaching 200 posts going apparantly "unnoticed". However I now have the personnal satisfaction of reaching 203 not out !!!! :D
 
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Craig

Craig

World Traveller
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
It makes no sense letting Hussain captain. There is very little likelihood that he will ever captain England again.
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Nor do I doubt Flintoff will ever captain only on a basis where the captain is injuried.
 
Mr Mxyzptlk

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Craig said:
Nor do I doubt Flintoff will ever captain only on a basis where the captain is injuried.
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It might be the use of 'nor' with the word 'doubt' but I'm not quite sure whether you think he would or wouldn't.

Either way, he was the most likely potential captain of the XI that played that game. Personally I would prefer to see Butcher as England captain but that will never happen.
 
Tim

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
I recall that Butcher may have captained England against NZ in 1999 during that series where England probably hit rock bottom for the first time in a long long time.
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Craig said:
Nor do I doubt Flintoff will ever captain only on a basis where the captain is injuried.
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Why not?

When Vaughan goes, it'll need an experienced person with a good Cricketing brain to take over.

I see no-one else of around Flintoff's age at this stage who will fulfill the first criteria of being an automatic pick.
 
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badgerhair

U19 Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
Why not?

When Vaughan goes, it'll need an experienced person with a good Cricketing brain to take over.

I see no-one else of around Flintoff's age at this stage who will fulfill the first criteria of being an automatic pick.
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It also represents a good investment for when Vaughan decides that he's no good at this one-day stuff and that if England are to win the World Cup he'll have to drop himself.

Cheers,

Mike
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
badgerhair said:
It also represents a good investment for when Vaughan decides that he's no good at this one-day stuff and that if England are to win the World Cup he'll have to drop himself.
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I wouldn't necessarily say he is "no good" - his record is not that bad.
 
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badgerhair

U19 Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
I wouldn't necessarily say he is "no good" - his record is not that bad.
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I didn't say he was. I'd like him to succeed, and I think he will, eventually. But he may not feature in our best possible one-day XI come 2007, and if that's the case, someone else ought to captain, and it's not a bad idea to be prepared for that.

Cheers,

Mike
 
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