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***Official*** England in Sri Lanka

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
List A records:

Dilruwan Perera: 944 runs @ 17
Chamara Kapugedera: 685 runs @ 20
Malinda Warnapura: 1370 runs @ 26

Really i can't see how any of these guys are good enough to replace Tharanga who still averages 30 plus in ODIs. Its just seem people are calling for players to be called up for the sake of it.
Bring back Dihan Avishka Gunawardene!
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
TBH, the bowling is still much to convince me. Sidebottom's been hugely impressive, especially in this game (I think we all knew he could do a decent job given Dambulla-like conditions) and Swann obviously offers quite some hope. With any luck Flintoff and Mascarenhas will be back sometime too.
Do you really think Fred will be back? He strikes me as an occasional bonus rather than an integral part of our oneday strategy. And what's happened to Mascarenhas - is he injured or dropped?

I still think people are inclined to think more of Anderson and Broad than they deserve, really, though. Neither have yet truly convinced me - Anderson even in now over 4 years of trying. I've seen too many Bresnans, Tremletts, Plunketts, Joneses, Wharfs, Mahmoods, Kabir Alis, Harmisons, Tudors, Kirtleys and Hoggards to get that excited over anyone who doesn't do something really, really, really special.
No question that Anderson isn't as consistent as we'd like, but he's usually OK. It's about time he learnt how to bowl at the death though. As you say, not as good as some will have you believe, but obviously 100% better than nearly everyone in your final list. Ditto Broad, but different to Anderson insfar as he's very young and has made a decent start in trying conditions. People probably over-state his bowling because he's made some ecent contributions with the bat.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Bring back Dihan Avishka Gunawardene!
I'd be interested to see Tharanga's domestic record as well. I don't think it'd be much better than Warnapura's, just at a guess. He probably averages around 27 which would be inferior to the Ian Daniels and Thilina Kandambys of the world. I've picked apart his international career enough times before so I won't do it again here, but I will point out that his average of 32 odd is highly flattering as he's scored most of his runs against Bangladesh and really, really bad attacks led by Tim Bresnan and Kabir Ali.

It's worth noting as well, even taking into consideration his slow scoring, that Michael Vandort amazingly averages over 40 in List A cricket. In the context of Sri Lankan domestic one day cricket, that's phenomenal.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I'd be interested to see Tharanga's domestic record as well. I don't think it'd be much better than Warnapura's, just at a guess. He probably averages around 27 which would be inferior to the Ian Daniels and Thilina Kandambys of the world. I've picked apart his international career enough times before so I won't do it again here, but I will point out that his average of 32 odd is highly flattering as he's scored most of his runs against Bangladesh and really, really bad attacks led by Tim Bresnan and Kabir Ali.

It's worth noting as well, even taking into consideration his slow scoring, that Michael Vandort amazingly averages over 40 in List A cricket. In the context of Sri Lankan domestic one day cricket, that's phenomenal.
Averages 30 odd in domestic cricket and he played most it as a teenager. Vandort actually averages 50 odd for Colombo CC. But 20 odd for Sri Lanka A outside matches against the Kenyas of the world. Also since Tharanga came on the scene his averaged mid 20s. Most of his runs can at the start of his career.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Easily, unless they lose a few wickets in the next half dozen overs. They're going nicely at 6 or 7 a over now, so 230 shouldn't be out of the question at all.
Not sure how much faith you could have in the Sri Lankan lower order TBH.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Usually is, but looking at some U23s scores its better pretty low scoring for most matches.
Well it's been a desperately slow surface, one that Dharmasena, Murali and Chandana would surely have torn-up on. Shame that attack is no more. As it is, the seamers have done a poor job and Kaushal has been rather disappointing.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Do you really think Fred will be back? He strikes me as an occasional bonus rather than an integral part of our oneday strategy.
I don't, TBH, and as such I think it'd be best if in ODIs we just forgot about him (because the very last thing you need in ODIs is an in-and-out key player, as we saw with Trescothick from 2006 onwards). Trouble is, we just can't do that, really, he's too good and his injury too inconclusive.
And what's happened to Mascarenhas - is he injured or dropped?
Dropped for Sidebottom. Which has ended-up looking like an inspired decision, but frankly it was poor and there's no changing that. Reckon he'd have torn-up on these surfaces, he'd have been impossible to get away unless he was seriously off.
No question that Anderson isn't as consistent as we'd like, but he's usually OK. It's about time he learnt how to bowl at the death though. As you say, not as good as some will have you believe, but obviously 100% better than nearly everyone in your final list. Ditto Broad, but different to Anderson insfar as he's very young and has made a decent start in trying conditions. People probably over-state his bowling because he's made some ecent contributions with the bat.
Plunkett supposedly made a decent start in trying conditions too. I'm sick of the "he's young, he'll get better" nonsense, because mostly it don't work that way. Every time the next seamer gets picked it's the same. Sure, the chain'll be broken sometime, because nothing lasts forever, but I'm falling for no hype until someone actually does something of note at List-A-one-day level.

The point about Anderson, meanwhile, is that if he really is our leading seamer, we've got problems.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Reeve was damn lucky he ever played a game with Pringle - Pringle was bad, Reeve was even worse.

Either way, I realised it was a while, don't think I realised it was that long. Pretty indecent that it's in Sri Lanka that the streak has ended.

Also interesting that there have been at least 2 multi-team series won in the meantime.
 

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