*Official* England in South Africa Thread

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Is Gibbs in the X1? good to see, thats his deserved place but it would be dissapointing to see Villiers droped.

 

[Langeveldt]

What is so wrong with using kilometres? MIles, pounds etc. are old school IMO.

1.6Km is a mile. You do the maths.

Miles are almost obselete in this country too, thank god.. Save for road signs..

 

[BoyBrumby]

Miles are almost obselete in this country too

Only among you ungrateful young so-and-sos! Those of us born before 1980 are quite happy with feet & inches!

I was taught in metric at school, but acquired the imperial measurements from my folks thru some kind of osmosis!

I just think there's more charm and romance to the old way. "A strapping six-footer" sounds far better than "a strapping 1 metre 83 centimetrer"!

 

[superkingdave]

Only among you ungrateful young so-and-sos! Those of us born before 1980 are quite happy with feet & inches!

I was taught in metric at school, but acquired the imperial measurements from my folks thru some kind of osmosis!

I just think there's more charm and romance to the old way. "A strapping six-footer" sounds far better than "a strapping 1 metre 83 centimetrer"!

Dont limit it to those pre-1980, im 1982, imperial and proud

miles, feet and inches and stones all the way.

 

[Langeveldt]

Only among you ungrateful young so-and-sos! Those of us born before 1980 are quite happy with feet & inches!

I was taught in metric at school, but acquired the imperial measurements from my folks thru some kind of osmosis!

I just think there's more charm and romance to the old way. "A strapping six-footer" sounds far better than "a strapping 1 metre 83 centimetrer"!

True, it however is a pointlessly difficult system of doing things, when working things out.. There is a huge shopping centre in the countryside near me, who operate still in feet, inches, pounds, ounces etc. They have been done over so heavily by the EU its unreal...

 

[Gangster]

90 mph makes a lot more sense to me too, would definitely have to add Flintoff and maybe Gillespie/Simon Jones

Why does 90 mph make more sense, the world runs on metric, to hell with miles...

 

[Deja moo]

It makes me so happy to see so many in favour of the metric system.
vive la revolution !

 

[Swervy]

Why does 90 mph make more sense, the world runs on metric, to hell with miles...

have a look at what he said...mph makes more sense to him...as it does to me..and probably anyone who has lived in the UK for a large amount of time

 

[pskov]

I measure speed and long distances in imperial, but short distances and all weights (apart from the weight of a person, for which I use stones) in metric.

Strange, but it works... (for me anyway)

 

[wpdavid]

Interesting piece by Gus Fraser in today's "Independent". Apparently the wicket for the 2nd test is indeed looking like being a greenun, which makes sense as SA have the bowler most likely to make full use of it. Looks like the guys writing the reports for Days 4 & 5 may not have a lot to do.

 

[pskov]

Interesting piece by Gus Fraser in today's "Independent". Apparently the wicket for the 2nd test is indeed looking like being a greenun, which makes sense as SA have the bowler most likely to make full use of it.

Harmison? Flintoff? Am I missing something here?

 

[wpdavid]

Harmison? Flintoff? Am I missing something here (re the green pitch)?

The assumption is that Pollock is far better equipped to extract lateral movement out of a green track. Plus Harmy looked horribly out of sorts at PE. Obviously I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.

 

[steds]

Why does 90 mph make more sense, the world runs on metric, to hell with miles...

the world may work in metric, but that doesn't make it more sensible than imperial. Give me miles, feet, yards, pounds and ounces any day

 

[steds]

Interesting piece by Gus Fraser in today's "Independent". Apparently the wicket for the 2nd test is indeed looking like being a greenun, which makes sense as SA have the bowler most likely to make full use of it. Looks like the guys writing the reports for Days 4 & 5 may not have a lot to do.

hmmm...and Englands bowlers have never ever played on green wickets before and don't know how to bowl on them?



I think not

 

[wpdavid]

hmmm...and Englands bowlers have never ever played on green wickets before and don't know how to bowl on them?



I think not

Errrr .. that's not actually what I said. My stated opinion was that Pollock is better suited to making the most of those sort of conditions than any of our guys, which doesn't mean they've never done it and don't know how to. Langeveldt looks like a horses for course pick as well, FWIW. It's not unlike when England won a couple of tests at Headingley in the early 90's against WI and Pakistan sides who really had much better attacks, but we had a couple of guys guys who were ideally suited to the conditions. Now, if I'm proved wrong, that's great, but we'll see.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I hope the pitch has a bit more life in it than last time round. IIRC it was where Gary Kirsten made his interminable 274 (?) after we'd made SA follow on. Great concentration & all that, but he was never a player to quicken the pulse, old Gaz, was he?

Didn't Butch bowl him with an off-break? & I think Caddick took a 6-for in the first, which must be one of the v few occasions where he bowled better in a first innings!

 

[wpdavid]

I hope the pitch has a bit more life in it than last time round. IIRC it was where Gary Kirsten made his interminable 274 (?) after we'd made SA follow on. Great concentration & all that, but he was never a player to quicken the pulse, old Gaz, was he?

Didn't Butch bowl him with an off-break? & I think Caddick took a 6-for in the first, which must be one of the v few occasions where he bowled better in a first innings!

Sounds like the wicket eased considerably as the game went on, which I suppose could happen again if it starts out as a green top before the sun gets to it. I *think* Caddick took 7 in the first innings, which surprised me no end at the time. Again, not an out-and-out quick, but knew how to get movement if it was there to be found. Thankfully I managed to avoid watching any of the game once Kirsten took root. Of course, the question this year is whether I'll be able to persuade my family that this is what we need to be watching on Dec 26th.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Sounds like the wicket eased considerably as the game went on, which I suppose could happen again if it starts out as a green top before the sun gets to it. I *think* Caddick took 7 in the first innings, which surprised me no end at the time. Again, not an out-and-out quick, but knew how to get movement if it was there to be found. Thankfully I managed to avoid watching any of the game once Kirsten took root. Of course, the question this year is whether I'll be able to persuade my family that this is what we need to be watching on Dec 26th.

I'm hoping to squeeze a couple of hours in before my other half drags me round my aunt & uncles for the avo!

 

[Langeveldt]

My family are going out for a drive, thank god for that! Means I can watch the highlight of the year, the boxing day tests..

 

[wpdavid]

Trouble is, all of my family know I'm not fit for human consumption if it's going badly, so they tend not to risk it. Also, my 2-year-old will probably insist on the kiddies channel, so that will be that.