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*Official* England in South Africa 2019/20

Bahnz

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
The discrepancy between Archer's FC numbers and his batting in tests is really quite stunning.
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Bahnz said:
The discrepancy between Archer's FC numbers and his batting in tests is really quite stunning.
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He's shown absolutely nothing with the bat at Test level. Kind of wonder what kind of innings he's played at FC level...
 
wpdavid

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Spark said:
He's shown absolutely nothing with the bat at Test level. Kind of wonder what kind of innings he's played at FC level...
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Division 2 in the CC barely counts as FC. Which is also true for a fair bit of Division 1 actually.

tbh the only surprise about today is that England got within 200.
 
SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
wpdavid said:
More than 'a bit' mate. This is what we do, and it's only going to get worse.
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I see potential in Pope. Burns looks a gutsy determined type despite the limitations. Not sure if Sibley has long terms credentials and need to see more of Crawley. So at least there is new blood in the batting.

Once Anderson and Broad goes with the ball though will be the most interesting.
 
H

Hicheal Michael

U19 Captain
You would think being red-ball only players Broad and Anderson would be able to spend more time on their batting - both are proper number 11's these days. Anderson used to be good for the odd 15-20.
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
SeamUp said:
I see potential in Pope. Burns looks a gutsy determined type despite the limitations. Not sure if Sibley has long terms credentials and need to see more of Crawley. So at least there is new blood in the batting.

Once Anderson and Broad goes with the ball though will be the most interesting.
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The talent is there. There are no issues with a lack of talent in English cricket IMO. Yes yes it's white ball but you only need to look at the insane strength of the ODI side to see that. The question is why incredibly talented batsmen like Roy, Hales, Bairstow and even Buttler etc etc have just not been able to put together reasonable defensive techniques to hack it at Test level. It's not as if their competitors from other nations are failing to convert highly talented LO batsmen into solid and even great Test batsmen.
 
StephenZA

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nicely done boys in the end. Bit reckless at the end by the English but well no real surprise.

Glad we got that one under the belt.
 
SeamUp

SeamUp

International Coach
Feels like ages since we won a test match. Good feeling. Big credit to Smith/Boucher/all the staff/players. About 2 weeks ago there was none of this in place and the players had no direction and low on confidence.
 
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