***Official*** England in Pakistan

[Pratters]

Pietersen, you mean.

Ya. A typo.

 

[Mecnun]

1. There is no similarity between the Afridi disgrace and Inzy's 'run out' except that they HAPPENED to be in the same test match - same day.. So I dont understand why they have to be discussed in conjunction. Neither is a justification for the other even if they had happened in the reverse order !

2. The 'run out' decision was a shocker without doubt. Two field umpires and a third umpire seemed , by inference, unaware of the clear point of law. There was no question of interpretation whatsoever.

Its also a fact that almost all the commentators, I suspect most, if not all, the fielders and Inzemam himself appeared ignorant about it.

I wonder how many who argue so passionately here now were aware of it. Sure some were but how many. At least this ignorant undersigned wasn't.

This does not justify umpires ignorance, it just puts another fact in perspective.

No one had any doubts about what Afridi did, inside the ground or anywhere else in the cricketing world, the umpires, the players, the fans, Afridi himself - you name them.

Thats another difference between the two incidents.

SJS

There may not be a similarity but there is I believe a link. That is and I am making a fair speculation that Afridi felt aggrieved (rightly or wrongly) and hence he retaliated hence I think the various incidents are related ..actions and reactions.

 

[Pratters]

Still that is a broad leap of faith on your behalf and pure speculation. Why is it unlikely that Afridi did this without Inzamam's behalf?

Yes I mentioned its speculation. But the reason I feel its unlikely is because pitch tampering is serious stuff and an individual player wouldnt do it without it being told/discussed by/with the captain or some thing according to me.

Broad leap of faith? Maybe. We cant prove it either way and its futile discussing it. Its just what I feel.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Wonderful,Wonderful Copenhagen bowling marvellously here, excellent line, length and mixing it up. Quite a handful. Bell seems to read one then not read the next.

 

[ClownSymonds]

Great bowling by Kaneria and Akhtar. Pietersen doesn't have a clue. Bell should be back in the pavilion already.

 

[Pratters]

Akhtar is irritated the mis timings by Pieterson of the bouncers are producing no results. I dont understand why the batsmen are going for even a few attacking shots in this crucial first hour. Pakistan realise the importance of taking wickets right now but they just cannot manage to do it.

England has managed to hold on in this period till now which is the most important part from their perspective.

 

[Shoaib]

Now,the ban on Shahid Afridi has once again proved that all of ICC's rules & regulations are for Pakistanis.No law is applicable to English & Australian players,no matter what they do.If Afridi was to be banned,Bell & Trescothick should've banned before him.In 2003,Rashid Latif did the same thing what Bell & Trescothick have done in this match & he was banned for 5 ODIs.That ban ended up his cricketing career.That ban not only deprived him of his captaincy,but also his place in the team was taken up by Kamran Akmal.If everyone is considered equal in cricket,then these two English players should suffer from such a ban which is sure to end their international careers.

 

[Shoaib]

Shabbir Ahmed was reported because he is a very dangerous bowler & English batsmen know that they don't have the confidence to face him.In the similar way,Afridi has been banned but he is the major hurdle in England's way to win the series in Pakistan.They'll still lose the series despite all their cheap tactics.

 

[Pratters]

England have sruvived the first session which was very crucial. Now can they build on? Naved to bowl now.

 

[SJS]

SJS

There may not be a similarity but there is I believe a link. That is and I am making a fair speculation that Afridi felt aggrieved (rightly or wrongly) and hence he retaliated hence I think the various incidents are related ..actions and reactions.

If that is the case, I hope not, its much worse than stupidity or cheating, it is lawlessness.
What will he do next time a wrong decision, howsoever bad, goes against him or his team, attack the umpires ??

 

[Pratters]

Kaneria warned 2nd time for running on the pitch. Another such incident and he cant bowl in the match.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Kaneria warned 2nd time for running on the pitch. Another such incident and he cant bowl in the match.

In the innings.

Quite baffling that a pro cricketer can't get the basics right.

 

[Pratters]

Naved has been very inconsitent with his line.

 

[Dasa]

Kaneria warned 2nd time for running on the pitch. Another such incident and he cant bowl in the match.

I think that was very harsh.
In general I feel umpires spend far too much time looking at fairly inconsequential things like running on the so-called 'danger area'...which then makes it even harder for them to get things like LBWs right, as they have to focus on 3 things at once (no-balls, running on the pitch, and an appeal should there be one).

 

[SJS]

I think that was very harsh.
In general I feel umpires spend far too much time looking at fairly inconsequential things like running on the so-called 'danger area'...which then makes it even harder for them to get things like LBWs right, as they have to focus on 3 things at once (no-balls, running on the pitch, and an appeal should there be one).

Inconsequential ??
and
so called ??

Strange choice of words my fiiend for something looked down upon even in school cricket.

Yes it has one advantage though. It will avoid the need for Afridi to go into his dance routine.

 

[Dasa]

Inconsequential ??
and
so called ??

Strange choice of words my fiiend for something looked down upon even in school cricket.

Yes it has one advantage though. It will avoid the need for Afridi to go into his dance routine.

I honestly don't see there being a huge problem with a few steps on to the 'danger area'...which is what it usually is, just a step or two before the bowler gets off the pitch.

 

[Zinzan]

Is there much turn out there for Kaneria ??

 

[What-A-Player]

Is there much turn out there for Kaneria ??

Whatever there was, he wont be able to bowl with the same freedom as he has been warned twice already

He got KP but the Keeper missed a regulation stumping

 

[Zinzan]

As the Aussies learn't the hard way....you don't want to give KP a let off !!

 

[Pratters]

Is there much turn out there for Kaneria ??

He is getting good turn. Also Naved is bowling a better line since he had a talk with Akhtar. I am really happy for Akhtar recently as I have always been a fan of his.

Pieterson has been interesting. He could have looked foolish when he went to attack 2 or 3 bouncers of Akhtar. He could have looked quite silly had one resulted in a wicket. Some inexperience showing there.

He always looks to attack which is good on many ocassions. But it can be a weakness in some situations.