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***Official*** England in Pakistan
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Mr Mxyzptlk
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I disagree. I think he's just a better batsman than England gives him credit for. I mean, dismissing the poor lad for 0 and 1. The nerve of some guys...Isolator said:
But don't worry, he'll get more chances. After all, he's only "23"...
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
So, after watching some of the highlights I have come to these conclusions:
1) Ian Bell knew he didn't catch that, and got away with it.
2) Inzy's dismissal was a complete and utter joke.
3) Afridi musn't have a brain, because that was pretty damned stupid.
4) The English commentators are so biased it nearly makes me puke.
1) Ian Bell knew he didn't catch that, and got away with it.
2) Inzy's dismissal was a complete and utter joke.
3) Afridi musn't have a brain, because that was pretty damned stupid.
4) The English commentators are so biased it nearly makes me puke.
I for one am glad about the spotlight being on Englands dalliance with Satan and their disregarding of the spirit of the game. Agnew has just come out criticising Eng for throwing the ball at the batsman ala Harmison (remember S. Jones v Hayden) and for aiming at the batsman completing a run with low returns to the keeper. NOW its against the spirit of the game he says, during the Ashes it just 'showing the aussies we're gonna stick up for ourselves'.
Add to this all the bump catches (not that the fielder knows best i suppose), over use of sub fielders, moving of fieldsman mid-delivery - you've pretty much got the ton. Shape up Vaughan, ur captain of England. We don't want a 'free for all' as Agnew describes
Add to this all the bump catches (not that the fielder knows best i suppose), over use of sub fielders, moving of fieldsman mid-delivery - you've pretty much got the ton. Shape up Vaughan, ur captain of England. We don't want a 'free for all' as Agnew describes
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
A couple of points
1. There is no similarity between the Afridi disgrace and Inzy's 'run out' except that they HAPPENED to be in the same test match - same day.. So I dont understand why they have to be discussed in conjunction. Neither is a justification for the other even if they had happened in the reverse order !
2. The 'run out' decision was a shocker without doubt. Two field umpires and a third umpire seemed , by inference, unaware of the clear point of law. There was no question of interpretation whatsoever.
Its also a fact that almost all the commentators, I suspect most, if not all, the fielders and Inzemam himself appeared ignorant about it.
I wonder how many who argue so passionately here now were aware of it. Sure some were but how many. At least this ignorant undersigned wasn't.
This does not justify umpires ignorance, it just puts another fact in perspective.
No one had any doubts about what Afridi did, inside the ground or anywhere else in the cricketing world, the umpires, the players, the fans, Afridi himself - you name them.
Thats another difference between the two incidents.
1. There is no similarity between the Afridi disgrace and Inzy's 'run out' except that they HAPPENED to be in the same test match - same day.. So I dont understand why they have to be discussed in conjunction. Neither is a justification for the other even if they had happened in the reverse order !
2. The 'run out' decision was a shocker without doubt. Two field umpires and a third umpire seemed , by inference, unaware of the clear point of law. There was no question of interpretation whatsoever.
Its also a fact that almost all the commentators, I suspect most, if not all, the fielders and Inzemam himself appeared ignorant about it.
I wonder how many who argue so passionately here now were aware of it. Sure some were but how many. At least this ignorant undersigned wasn't.
This does not justify umpires ignorance, it just puts another fact in perspective.
No one had any doubts about what Afridi did, inside the ground or anywhere else in the cricketing world, the umpires, the players, the fans, Afridi himself - you name them.
Thats another difference between the two incidents.
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Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Coming to actually discussing the match situation -
Botham pointed out yesterday that two Englishmen will have to get centuries today. 2 scores around hundred and 100 runs from the rest of the team would mean England face a deficit of around 50.
Its a cliche but the first hour is going to be very crucial. Can we get an inspired performance from Akhtar. Also how will Kaneria perform. Kaneria and Akhtar have both gone for more than 4 an over. Any specific reasons for that? Naved-ul-hasan had 5 no balls and still finished with very good figures yesterday. That yorker was certainly splendid.
England will look for an inspired performance from Flintoff. He can certainly play a key role to bring England back into the match. Only 2 days are over and there is lot of time left still.
So much of controversy has occured in this match so far. I hope iwe are talking cricket at the end of day 3 and we dont see further drama.
Botham pointed out yesterday that two Englishmen will have to get centuries today. 2 scores around hundred and 100 runs from the rest of the team would mean England face a deficit of around 50.
Its a cliche but the first hour is going to be very crucial. Can we get an inspired performance from Akhtar. Also how will Kaneria perform. Kaneria and Akhtar have both gone for more than 4 an over. Any specific reasons for that? Naved-ul-hasan had 5 no balls and still finished with very good figures yesterday. That yorker was certainly splendid.
England will look for an inspired performance from Flintoff. He can certainly play a key role to bring England back into the match. Only 2 days are over and there is lot of time left still.
So much of controversy has occured in this match so far. I hope iwe are talking cricket at the end of day 3 and we dont see further drama.
Pedro Delgado
International Debutant
I think the punishment for Afridi is about right, it was a rush of blood to the head, we all make errors and I don't like a witch hunt.
All about mindset for the hated Englishmen today, the pitch is a belter one just needs to get ones head down and bat for the long hall, as Geoffrey Boycott's mum would do, possibly with a stick of rubarb.
Fight the good fight chaps.
All about mindset for the hated Englishmen today, the pitch is a belter one just needs to get ones head down and bat for the long hall, as Geoffrey Boycott's mum would do, possibly with a stick of rubarb.
Fight the good fight chaps.
ClownSymonds
U19 Vice-Captain
Wow, what a pathetic effort from Kamran Akmal. Bell was absolutely begging to be stumped. I can't believe he made such a mess of it.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Pieterson mistimes the ball but the pop in the air does not go to any fielder. Inzy misses hitting the stump. Not sure if the direct hit would be out or not.
More importantly Akhtar has been bowling superbly and Kaneria is putting the pressure from the other end as well.so
More importantly Akhtar has been bowling superbly and Kaneria is putting the pressure from the other end as well.so
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ClownSymonds
U19 Vice-Captain
Pietersen, you mean.Pratyush said: