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***Official*** England in Pakistan

Zinzan

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Shoaib said:
Another great piece of cheating by the umpire.Does it always have to happen with Pakistan only?
No, cheating by umpires actually happens to everyfans team :p
 

Shoaib

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nightprowler10 said:
Inzi wasn't out according to the commentators. The law apparently states that if the batsman is not attempting a run and is within his box, but his foot is the air in order to avoid getting hit by the ball, as was Inzi's case, the batsman is not out. So pretty much he was trying to avoid injury while still inside the crease. Terrible way to get out. That's the second dodgy call that went against Pakistan already, both were against in form batsmen. Oh well.
Third dodgy decision, actually.First one was Mohammad Yousuf,then Shahid Afridi & now the legendary Inzamam-Ul-Haq.
 

Pedro Delgado

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Clever stuff from GBH. If we can manage it, England will be happy to restrict Pak to under 450 on this road, this is a 600 job.

Runs on the board is runs on the board though.
 

nightprowler10

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Shoaib said:
Third dodgy decision, actually.First one was Mohammad Yousuf,then Shahid Afridi & now the legendary Inzamam-Ul-Haq.
The Afridi catch wasn't as dodgy IMO. I thought it was pretty clear that the ball bounced off Tresco's fingers. The other two weren't out at all.
 

Neil Pickup

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Which makes up for Salman Butt not being run out, and both of the LBWs to the spinners yesterday, yes?

Either way, there is no doubt at all that Trescothick's was a clean catch. Google "foreshortening of the lens". Bell's I haven't seen as I was playing football... wait, just seen a replay. It happens...
 

Shoaib

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nightprowler10 said:
The Afridi catch wasn't as dodgy IMO. I thought it was pretty clear that the ball bounced off Tresco's fingers. The other two weren't out at all.
I suggest that u go & have your glasses changed.Whether it was out or not out,shouldn't it've been referred to the 3rd umpire?
 

Unattainableguy

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Shoaib said:
Are the English supporters still expecting their team to win this series?
Nahh, I think most of them are now gonna be thinking about whitewashing Pakistan in ODIs now( or atleast winning the series), and in my opinion, that's not going to happen as well.
 

Neil Pickup

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Shoaib said:
I suggest that u go & have your glasses changed.Whether it was out or not out,shouldn't it've been referred to the 3rd umpire?
No. Referrals are only permitted if both umpires are unsighted.
 

Shoaib

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Unattainableguy said:
Nahh, I think most of them are now gonna be thinking about whitewashing Pakistan in ODIs now( or atleast winning the series) , and in my opinion, that's not going to happen as well.
Maybe,but they don't care about ODIs as much as we do.
 

nightprowler10

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Shoaib said:
I suggest that u go & have your glasses changed.Whether it was out or not out,shouldn't it've been referred to the 3rd umpire?
I don't need glasses but you certainly need more knowledge of cricket. Catches cannot be referred to the third umpire unless both of the umpires were blind to the catch, no matter what Ramiz Raja says.
 

andyc

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zinzan12 said:
Interesting comments coming from the same country as Greg Chappell (the underarm) and Greg Dyer (arguably the worst catch that wasn't in history).

C'mon Clown...from a neutral point of view I do admire their commitment to sport but everyone knows Aussie would do anything to win.

Pot calling the kettle black??
Hitler was German, does that mean Germans can't criticise anyone for being inhumane?

And can someone explain what happened with Inzi?
 

Neil Pickup

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andyc said:
Hitler was German, does that mean Germans can't criticise anyone for being inhumane?

And can someone explain what happened with Inzi?
Harmo bowled, Inzy played the ball back down the pitch to Harmo, who picked it up and hurled it at the striker's end stumps. Inzy jumped ungracefully out the way and was still in mid-air when the ball thudded into leg-stump.

Out of his ground, but the laws say that if you move out your ground solely for the reason of taking evasive action, then you shouldn't be given out.
 

luckyeddie

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andyc said:
Hitler was German, does that mean Germans can't criticise anyone for being inhumane?

And can someone explain what happened with Inzi?
Way to Godwin a cricket thread.

Inzy played the ball back to Harmison who threw the stumps down.
England appealed for the run out.
It was referred to the third umpire who gave it out.
The only reason the fat bloke was out of his ground (it is alleged) is because he was taking evasive action, although in Inzy's case the movement might well be because he had suffered some sort of gutquake caused by movements in the tectonic eggs floating on top of his core of breakfast sausages.

or you can believe Neil's version.
 

nightprowler10

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andyc said:
And can someone explain what happened with Inzi?
Inzi defended one back to Harmy, who threw the ball back in an attempt to get him runout, only Inzi wasn't attempting a run. Ball hit the stumps as Inzi got out of its way, call went to third umpire and was given on the basis that Inzi's foot was still in the air. Law states that isn't runout since Inzi was only trying to avoid being being injured by the ball when it hit the stumps.
 

andyc

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Neil Pickup said:
Harmo bowled, Inzy played the ball back down the pitch to Harmo, who picked it up and hurled it at the striker's end stumps. Inzy jumped ungracefully out the way and was still in mid-air when the ball thudded into leg-stump.

Out of his ground, but the laws say that if you move out your ground solely for the reason of taking evasive action, then you shouldn't be given out.
So Inzy didn't fall fast enough? Who'd have thought?

But that does sound very unlucky. Was it referred to the third umpire though? Cause you'd think he could've checked the rules before making a decision
 

luckyeddie

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andyc said:
So Inzy didn't fall fast enough? Who'd have thought?

But that does sound very unlucky. Was it referred to the third umpire though? Cause you'd think he could've checked the rules before making a decision
Two tests, two third umpires with an eye for controversy.

Who'd have thought?
 

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