**Official** England in New Zealand 28 Nov-18 Dec 2024 - 3 Tests

[Bahnz]

I actually can't believe this was nearly 17 years ago.

 

[straw man]

Wow. One that seems both 'I can't believe it was so long ago' and 'that's ancient history' at the same time.

Like Vettori at retirement, seeing the fresh face on debut is unreal. A bowling action that wasn't yet what it grew into. Fleming and Vaughan playing (the latter being Southee's first test wicket and even managed to not act like a pillock). Random Matthew Bell and Jamie How. Jeets, Ryan Sidebottom. Cool that Stuart Broad was one of Southee's first wickets too - careers in parallel.

Even weirder, would be possible to dig up that CW thread and see what everyone thought at the time.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Wow. One that seems both 'I can't believe it was so long ago' and 'that's ancient history' at the same time.

Like Vettori at retirement, seeing the fresh face on debut is unreal. A bowling action that wasn't yet what it grew into. Fleming and Vaughan playing (the latter being Southee's first test wicket and even managed to not act like a pillock). Random Matthew Bell and Jamie How. Jeets, Ryan Sidebottom. Cool that Stuart Broad was one of Southee's first wickets too - careers in parallel.

Even weirder, would be possible to dig up that CW thread and see what everyone thought at the time.

So long ago that Broad would have been a prized wicket!

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Wow. One that seems both 'I can't believe it was so long ago' and 'that's ancient history' at the same time.

Like Vettori at retirement, seeing the fresh face on debut is unreal. A bowling action that wasn't yet what it grew into. Fleming and Vaughan playing (the latter being Southee's first test wicket and even managed to not act like a pillock). Random Matthew Bell and Jamie How. Jeets, Ryan Sidebottom. Cool that Stuart Broad was one of Southee's first wickets too - careers in parallel.

Even weirder, would be possible to dig up that CW thread and see what everyone thought at the time.

Also Grant Elliot debuted in the same test as Southee

 

[Zinzan]

Even weirder, would be possible to dig up that CW thread and see what everyone thought at the time.

Here you go mate... Pretty busy damn thread, 302 pages, albeit half of them being Richard's posts.

**Official** England in New Zealand

Feb 2: v Canterbury Wizards at QE II Park, Christchurch Feb 3 v Canterbury Wizards at QE II Park, Christchurch Feb 5: Twenty20 at Jade Stadium, Christchurch. Feb 7: Twenty20 at Eden Park, Auckland. Feb 9: 1st ODI at Westpac Stadium, Wellington. Feb 12: 2nd ODI at Seddon Park, Hamilton Feb...

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[Bahnz]

Here you go mate... Pretty busy damn thread, 302 pages, albeit half of them being Richard's posts.

**Official** England in New Zealand

Feb 2: v Canterbury Wizards at QE II Park, Christchurch Feb 3 v Canterbury Wizards at QE II Park, Christchurch Feb 5: Twenty20 at Jade Stadium, Christchurch. Feb 7: Twenty20 at Eden Park, Auckland. Feb 9: 1st ODI at Westpac Stadium, Wellington. Feb 12: 2nd ODI at Seddon Park, Hamilton Feb...

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[straw man]

Good call Shaggy Alfresco

Tim Southee: 400 test wickets?

Hmm @_Ed_

Nah, 800 IMO.

 

[Bahnz]

Try and tell me James Anderson or Harmison are better than Mills, Martin and co.

God damn I love digging through these old threads.

 

[straw man]

So long ago that Broad would have been a prized wicket!

The scoop from back in 2008 says he was decent, yeah.

Broad was pretty lucky, more than half his runs came off the edge of the bat. But he still batted comfortably better than any other English batsman besides Pietersen.

 

[Flem274*]

God damn I love digging through these old threads.

You know, I'm gonna stand by it.

 

[Bahnz]

You know, I'm gonna stand by it.

That's the spirit. I'm pretty sure I probably argued at some point that James Franklin would become a better allrounder than Flintoff.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

I actually can't believe this was nearly 17 years ago.

GM bats have really gone out of fashion

 

[jcas0167]

Just remembered Southee’s debut was also Stephen Fleming’s final test. That’s quite a decisive last link.

Used one of Fleming's bats when he got his 77.

 

[King Kane]

Used one of Fleming's bats when he got his 77.

He should have kept using it, it's still his best test knock and I doubt he will beat it in this series.

Hopefully he can finish off his test career with a good bowling performance and a test series win.

 

[mackembhoy]

What happened to Blair Tickener btw?

 

[Bahnz]

What happened to Blair Tickener btw?

When he didn't set the world on fire in 22/23 (and tbh no one really expected him to), NZ uncharacteristically decided to roll the dice on youngsters Will O'Rourke and Ben Sears who both made fine starts to their careers. Tickner's actually been doing pretty good work in domestic cricket, so I wouldn't totally rule out the possibility of seeing him again at some point, but he's a fair way down the pecking order now. Besides, the only vacant spot in the attack at the moment is Jamieson's and NZ want someone who can bat a bit to fill his shoes.

 

[ashley bach]

Speaking of KJ where is he at these days. Is he any chance of playing this series?

 

[RMBolton]

Speaking of KJ where is he at these days. Is he any chance of playing this series?

Now that the squad's out, definitely not. He's not even back playing domestics yet. We've got no idea when his international comeback could be: either the Pakistan tour at the end of the summer or Zimbabwe midyear.

 

[danzydab]

its far away, but would love if o'rourke and jamieson bowl in tandem in australia in 2 years time

 

[flibbertyjibber]

2 more days at work then off to NZ I go.