mackembhoy
International Regular
Me too
I'm surprised we went for Carse over Pottsy. I also thought it felt like a bad toss to lose.
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**Official** England in New Zealand 28 Nov-18 Dec 2024 - 3 Tests
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I'm surprised we went for Carse over Pottsy. I also thought it felt like a bad toss to lose.
So Latham. Look a million bucks, find one of 569 ways to get out. Such a poor place to try and hit that ball, which didn't appreciably move from its initial line
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, Kiwis seemed so comfortable before that, but hey that was a top nut.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Regular
Carse, a fully-fledged all-rounder for Durham, at #10 is funny. There’s no real need for Woakes’ batting if we’re going to have 7 genuine batters in the team plus Atkinson and Carse, the selectors must think that New Zealand is basically the same as England but on the other side of the planet
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
just lurpak
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
what. It was a half volley and he timed the pants off it.
thundaboult
International Debutant
didnt know finn allen turned to fast bowling and started playing for england
srsly tho thought carse was supposed to be quick
same with atkinson lol
srsly tho thought carse was supposed to be quick
same with atkinson lol
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
He's meant to be arse but he's been bowling quite well lately. Hopefully he returns to type. The upper thigh joke was only funny once.
thierry henry
International Coach
I thought Atkinson was the quick one, is he usually 10kph slower than Carse
BazBall21
International Captain
Yeah he's got pace and bowls a heavy enough ball. Accuracy and guile were the question marks against him but he has started well in tests.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Carse is probably a bit faster on average but they're both usually in that range Bahnz just mentioned in red ball cricket - high 130s mostly.
thundaboult
International Debutant
true, i was under the impression england picked him as that "point of difference" in regards to pace
wood and archer still in their own league for that category i guess
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Stone is definitely faster too, TBH, His injuries have taken pace off him, but he's improved as a bat, so swings and roundabouts.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
not sure anyone knows how quick archer really is anymore.
a fit mark wood is the quickest bowler in the world by a distance.
mackembhoy
International Regular
He's always been consistent 85mph+, just wayward when he's bowling it.
Most who watch him regularly at Durham would agree we didn't think he'd be international standard. Not quite to same extent as @Prince EWS Carse is arse view mind.
But it's clear that Stokes has long thought he was what he wanted at this level. A previous setup wouldn't have championed him at all, with his betting ban last year even more so.
BazBall21
International Captain
England's over rate would make 1980s WI blush