*Official* England in India

[centurymaker]

it's about doing well in conditions you aren't used to playing in.

 

[karan316]

I think we have enough defensive players in the team, when required, Kohli, Gambhir, Dhoni, Yuvraj,etc. can play the anchor role, Uthappa should open, and Yusuf at number 7 would be ideal, Parthiv has shown that he can attack and has performed well in England, no need to write him off so early,
Uthappa and Parthiv should be the ideal opening pair in Sehwag and Sachin's absence,

Rahane should be selected for tests, instead of going for Raina or someone else, Rahane averaged 67 in domestic cricket and is much better than other youngsters.

And Jadeja is better than before, but I think we should have Jadeja at number 8 and Yusuf at number 7.
When early wickets fell, Jadeja can be sent ahead of both Yusuf and Raina to stabilise the innings, otherwise he should bat low down the order,

4 bowlers( Jadeja included) along with Yusuf, Yuvraj and Kohli bowling the remaining overs would be the best option, this batting lineup is quite good but it would be a problem outside the subcontinent.
Whenever the top order fails, the number 6 or 7 batsmen have to slow down and rebuild the innings and they consume a lot of deliveries in that process, and they have to bat till the 45th or 46th over before they can try to increase the run rate, in such a case, we might get to a respectable score, but not a 'winning score'. To avoid such situations we need to have a strong lower order, so that the number 6 and 7 batsmen can attack early and not let the run rate go down, and they can do it when they know there is someone at number 8 who can bat.

The current team balance might be working in home conditions, but it wont in foreign tours.

 

[Burgey]

Enlightening.

And i thought all Indian batsman, especially the youngsters were Crap/Flat track bullies/Overrated because they hadn't succeeded in England and Maybe South Africa.

No that's Australia.

 

[Burgey]

Uthappa in for the T20. A good cricketer and still young at 25. Am pretty sure he will soon break in to the ODI squad, what with Sehwag not playing much and him being an opener in the same mold.

He had a game out here a few years back and he looked pretty good iirc.

 

[Prince EWS]

it's about doing well in conditions you aren't used to playing in.

Well, that's half of international cricket.

The other half is doing well in conditions you are used to playing in.

 

[karan316]

From where did you get that impression? Aaron is quite up-and-down (from what I've seen) and does not move it in the air either. Pace and some inseam being his only two assets.

Today's work may not indicate that, but Yadav has more method to his bowling than Aaron.

I have been following both Yadav and Aroon from quite a long now,
I have seen most of their matches, i even see their domestic matches,

To be honest, they both are still very raw for the international arena, they should have been trained at the NCA and groomed well and then tried in the Australia tour in test matches,
at the moment all they have is raw pace and good fitness,

Umesh Yadav will find it very difficult in the ODIs especially in the powerplay and the death overs,even in the first two ODIs, he has bowled some really good deliveries, but has bowled a lot of loose stuff aswell,
Aroon has a bit more variation to his bowling and also has better control,
you should also look at the IPL games they have played, Aroon has been economical and Yadav has given away too many runs in most of the matches.

And Aroon has always had good control, I don't know what makes you think that he is up and down,
maybe you are in that impression because of the warm matches in England where bowled badly.

 

[Woodster]

Well, that was a good thumping for us. Once again India highlight the areas where we are inept on the sub-continent. As if to emphasise the need for batsmen to go on and make big scores, Kohli and Gambhir put on a magnificient partnership in excess of 200. They may both have ridden a bit of luck early in their innings, but thereafter they looked composed and in complete control, making the rotation of strike look easy and flashy boundaries (especially from Kohli) were never too far away.

Trott, KP, Bopara, Bairstow and Patel all looked good, yet none had the savvy to go on and make a big score. It seems like there will now be a surge for Bell to be selected, yet Bell has only scored one ODI century, so while he has the class of Kohli, it's unlikely he's going to play the kind of substantial innings to turn England's fortunes around. He can play spin better than most, and could be worth a punt providing we don't expect him to have all the answers, but here's hoping.

 

[Prince EWS]

So who does Bell come in for if he plays? Kieswetter?

 

[honestbharani]

Prepared ro say Cook is over-rated as he isn't "succeeding in India", the benchmark for all great players since, well, CW came along.

Or since Ponting couldn't get the ball off the square there.. Take your pick...

 

[honestbharani]

@PEWS:

Should be.. I would put Bairstow as the keeper if he is a proper keeper at FC level, which he apparently is... KP can open with Cook and Bell can bat at 4. It would be the ideal top order for England... And they should stick to this even if they lose a few games, because in the long run, it is potentially a world class top 4 for ODIs... And give Trott a few overs as well, IMO. He can sneak in on batting line ups and a get a couple of wickets coz they won't take him seriously...

 

[Burgey]

Or since Ponting couldn't get the ball off the square there.. Take your pick...

Averaged 50 odd in his last series there iirc....

 

[Burgey]

Can someone tell me whether the five minute delay in the live streaming to India of the current series which the comms mentioned last night has anything to do with gambling being illegal there?

 

[honestbharani]

Averaged 50 odd in his last series there iirc....

and about 12 before that over 3 series, IIRC..

 

[Burgey]

and about 12 before that over 3 series, IIRC..

But now he's done well there he has passed the greatest test which can ever be placed before any cricketer.

 

[honestbharani]

But now he's done well there he has passed the greatest test which can ever be placed before any cricketer.

Don't think he has faced Virat Kohli yet, tbh..

 

[Burgey]

Haha. Indeed.

 

[nikodas]

Great to see India doing well once again.. but I hope that this is not the usual case of us being unbeatable in India but loosing every where else! Lets go!

 

[biased indian]

Can someone tell me whether the five minute delay in the live streaming to India of the current series which the comms mentioned last night has anything to do with gambling being illegal there?

think its more to do with the TV channel so than gambling...

because during world cup the games where shown live on internet with out delay

 

[G.I.Joe]

Can someone tell me whether the five minute delay in the live streaming to India of the current series which the comms mentioned last night has anything to do with gambling being illegal there?

Interesting. I suppose that could be an easy way to tackle illegal gambling.

 

[Daemon]

I have been following both Yadav and Aroon from quite a long now,
I have seen most of their matches, i even see their domestic matches,

To be honest, they both are still very raw for the international arena, they should have been trained at the NCA and groomed well and then tried in the Australia tour in test matches,
at the moment all they have is raw pace and good fitness,

Umesh Yadav will find it very difficult in the ODIs especially in the powerplay and the death overs,even in the first two ODIs, he has bowled some really good deliveries, but has bowled a lot of loose stuff aswell,
Aroon has a bit more variation to his bowling and also has better control,
you should also look at the IPL games they have played, Aroon has been economical and Yadav has given away too many runs in most of the matches.

And Aroon has always had good control, I don't know what makes you think that he is up and down,
maybe you are in that impression because of the warm matches in England where bowled badly.

Since you've followed them so much would you mind explaining why you spelt his name wrongly four times?