***Official*** England in India

[marc71178]

Indian connection in the sense that their are just Indians living in a predominant white country & they support India or they are like migrants?

Indian connections in that they have a Indian family and are thus following the side of their upbringing...

anyway it doesn't take awy the fact that this is argument is stupid are you are an absolute pain..

Another top argument there...

 

[aussie]

Indian connections in that they have a Indian family and are thus following the side of their upbringing...



Another top argument there...

1. But they are still australian by birth i presume. If you want to use that logic, my mum is black & is born in trinidad would it be wrong if i support the WI then?, it doesn't matter, why dont you just leave me the heck alone & let me support who i want in peace.

2. Another stupid response to your brainless assault

 

[Dasa]

Another top argument there...

What exactly is your argument?? Whatever problems you have with aussie, why keep having a go at him about something that is clearly not your business? Does it really affect you that much that he supports Australia and England at the same time that you have to bring it up in almost every thread where he posts? Wouldn't it be easier to just let it go...you disagree with his stance, it's still not affecting you and I see little point in this petty point-scoring.

 

[marc71178]

1. But they are still australian by birth i presume. If you want to use that logic, my mum is black & is born in trinidad would it be wrong if i support the WI then?, it doesn't matter, why dont you just leave me the heck alone & let me support who i want in peace.

It would be understandable if you supported the Windies, maybe if you'd been born 10 years earlier you would've done, because then they'd have been winning at the time you came into the game.

2. Another stupid response to your brainless assault

Stupid response says it all.

 

[pskov]

Vaughan and Simon Jones are both out of the first test, with Vaughan flying home. The bit about Jones 'collapsing' during a net session is far from comforting too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4754004.stm

England's winter is starting to seem cursed.

So, I guess that makes the team:

Strauss
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff (capt)
G.Jones (wkt)
Blackwell
Hoggard
Harmison
Anderson/Panesar

Not sure if we would go with two spinners, but may have to now. Depends on how Anderson is feeling when he gets off the plane I suppose. This is all presuming Colly and Pietersen are fit of course...

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Give Anderson a game!

 

[social]

Hopefully Eng's players see it as a challenge rather than an inevitability. A respectable result in the circumstances will stand them in great stead for the future.

Vaughan, meanwhile, seems destined for a premature ending to his career. For mine, his departure is not a bad thing as I believe he's taken his team and batting as far as it can go.

 

[marc71178]

This is beginning to remind me of the last tour of Australia we had.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Hopefully Eng's players see it as a challenge rather than an inevitability. A respectable result in the circumstances will stand them in great stead for the future.

Vaughan, meanwhile, seems destined for a premature ending to his career. For mine, his departure is not a bad thing as I believe he's taken his team and batting as far as it can go.

It doesn't look good for MPV, no. I don't pretend to be any sort of expert on the mechanics of the knee, but I'd guess one only has so much cartilage for the surgeons to rearrange.

I've always supposed that is was the captaincy that'd had such an adverse affect on his batting. I imagine now that the knee probs have severely curtailed his effectiveness. I don't know how bad the prognosis is (I can't imagine it's v good if he's breaking down so soon after corrective surgery), but if he were to give away the ODIs (where he's never been half as good a batter or captain as in tests) it may help to prolong his test career for a while longer.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

This is beginning to remind me of the last tour of Australia we had.

Hopefully Anderson can do as well!

I really do hope he gets a game though, I really like him.

 

[social]

This is beginning to remind me of the last tour of Australia we had.

Eng were ordinary even with a full compliment on that tour and were going to be smashed anyway - this is very different.

 

[wpdavid]

Vaughan and Simon Jones are both out of the first test, with Vaughan flying home. The bit about Jones 'collapsing' during a net session is far from comforting too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4754004.stm

England's winter is starting to seem cursed.

So, I guess that makes the team:

Strauss
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff (capt)
G.Jones (wkt)
Blackwell
Hoggard
Harmison
Anderson/Panesar

Not sure if we would go with two spinners, but may have to now. Depends on how Anderson is feeling when he gets off the plane I suppose. This is all presuming Colly and Pietersen are fit of course...

Well, we'll learn a bit about these players I suppose, but this is looking as grim as anything I've ever known - much worse than Ashes 2002/03.

As for the lineup, judging by reports about the state of the pitch, we'll play both spinners. I don't think that Fred should be captain on top of everything else he'll do. Strauss is the obvious choice, even if he has only played about 20 tests.

 

[Matteh]

Does it really affect you that much that he supports Australia and England at the same time that you have to bring it up in almost every thread where he posts?

I support Australia and England at the same time...my dad's Australian, my mum's English...but because i've lived in England for the majority of my life i always support England over Australia when they play each other.

 

[Matteh]

As for England v India....

I can't help feel that England are going to have to be incredibly lucky to get away with not losing this series...key players out through injury/other reasons, including the captain...doesn't bode well

 

[Kweek]

If England get anything out of this series, they'be heroes for ever imo.

 

[wpdavid]

As for England v India....

I can't help feel that England are going to have to be incredibly lucky to get away with not losing this series...key players out through injury/other reasons, including the captain...doesn't bode well

Plus the poor form of Strauss and, with the bat, Flintoff.
Anything other than 3-0 will be a major surprise.

 

[pskov]

Well, we'll learn a bit about these players I suppose, but this is looking as grim as anything I've ever known - much worse than Ashes 2002/03.

As for the lineup, judging by reports about the state of the pitch, we'll play both spinners. I don't think that Fred should be captain on top of everything else he'll do. Strauss is the obvious choice, even if he has only played about 20 tests.

Graveny confirmed that Flintoff was reserve skipper a few days ago.

 

[PY]

Graveny confirmed that Flintoff was reserve skipper a few days ago.

Doesn't mean he should be though IMO.

If we get anything from this series at all, it'll have to be a Herculean effort from the big man and could possibly kill him. Strauss was the obvious choice as he's captained at county level whereas I believe Freddie hasn't had that. It'll be weird that people like Strauss, GoJo, Hoggy and Harmison are going to be the experienced guys on this tour.

I wasn't at all confident before injuries, now I just think it'll be a character/depth testing tour which will be a big boost if we come out of it with anything.

 

[chicane]

wtf? why is everyone oh-so pessimistic?

im still lookingforward to a good contest, i mean england have some terrific players. simon jones and trescothik going out are big blows but they are still a very good team!

for india - yuvraj injured, ganguly out, so a big hole to fill there for whoever comes in. vvs laxman is having a lean run of form, harbhajan not in top form either, lots of new players in the side, plus probably a wicket in nagpur that will be good for fast bowling. hmmm...

 

[GIMH]

As Vaughan said in his book,"Fred bats, bowls and fields, captaincy on top of that would be a great strain on him, perhaps too much," something like that anyway

But if they reckon Strauss is too inexperienced then I guess he's the only option really

I wonder if he'll overbowl himself