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*Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

Burgey

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This genuinely might be the most ill-tempered tour thread I've seen in a very long time and we haven't gotten to lunch on the first day yet.
It’s ok mate, I’ll smooth things over when I get home a bit later, but it seems as though both sets of supporters are typically sooking hard. The victim complex runs deep in them both.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
This genuinely might be the most ill-tempered tour thread I've seen in a very long time and we haven't gotten to lunch on the first day yet.
Are you sure? Beyond a couple of usual blow-in comments, just seems to be English pessimism, Shri and normal posting.
 

BazBall21

International Captain
Nah. Brook hasn't ever been convincing against spin in indian conditions either, looked clueless in the IPL last year. From what i saw in the ashes he doesn't look like he's ready to handle batting 3, either. Atleast pope has shown some ability to produce runs at 3.
Brook is better than Pope against spin. Not convinced by Pope at 3. Record there takes a heavy padding from the Ireland double hundred.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Looks a good pitch tbh. Enough turn to keep the spinners interested, bounce for the seamers and the SG ball always swings and reverse swings and does something off the seam unlike the Kookaburra and batsmen getting good value for their shots.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Tbf to KP, in his latter years in the team he genuinely seemed to like, and be like, by the young guys - Root, Bairstow, Stokes etc. Not James Taylor mind you
If there's one player who would be truly regretful he couldn't play in the current team it would be him. Would have been absolutely tailor made to his strengths
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
missed the whole terrorism discussion? was a battle of CW's finest minds.
Oh yeah but nothing before the match starts actually counts. Unless it was still being discussed in the first hour. I was asleep then. Which also doesn’t count as there’s no England thread worth a squirt of piss if I’m not in posting in it
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Looks a good pitch tbh. Enough turn to keep the spinners interested, bounce for the seamers and the SG ball always swings and reverse swings and does something off the seam unlike the Kookaburra and batsmen getting good value for their shots.
New Kookaburra seems better tbf. I heard they changed their processes a few years back and whatever they've done seems to have worked, the ball seems to be staying a lot harder for longer in the last two or three summers.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
New Kookaburra seems better tbf. I heard they changed their processes a few years back and whatever they've done seems to have worked, the ball seems to be staying a lot harder for longer in the last two or three summers.
I think they did but in general, the hand stitched seam tends to be more prominent, which is why Ash was a big fan of the Dukes IIRC. SG also has a hand stitched seam. Remains pretty prominent even with a very old ball. So you can get swing and reverse if you have those skills but there is always a chance the ball will do something when it hits the seam even when its old.
 

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