*Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

[honestbharani]

Lets be real here. If you dont fancy yourself against THIS Indian side, you should never be playing international cricket. Its what I said last test too. Our batting is being held up by a couple of guys but overall, if your second best bat is a guy playing his second test and we keep carrying passengers like Mukesh in that 2nd test and Pattidar here, it is gonna come back to bite us.

England should win easily here.

 

[honestbharani]

So looks like Stokes' crying last game helped, 4-6 decisions consistently gone in Eng's favor including that missed lbw vs Robinson on 10 last evening!

I wonder where the whingers went - IIRC both Hawkeye and Dharmasena were rigged to ensure we won?

 

[Aidan11]

Hopefully we can take these last 3 wickets without too much bother.

 

[Socerer 01]

how do you know that?

just look at how many of our batsmen have declined in their ability to play spin

even spin boshers like Iyer have been **** in tests against spin since the last year

 

[OverratedSanity]

We have been massively bailed out this series by a 22 year old noob playing a few blinders. England are just better.

 

[slowfinger]

Stokes' captaincy, and especially his man management, may have something to do with that. And this Indian line-up is less experienced than the guys we faced last time.

very true. I remember how infuriated I was in WI in Roots last captaincy tour when he would bowl Root over Moeen, give Mo like 3/4 overs, he'd get hit for some boundaries, drop him instantly for one of the seamers... it put so much pressure on the spinners and I think Moeen would have done so much better under Stokes

 

[OverratedSanity]

just look at how many of our batsmen have declined in their ability to play spin

even spin boshers like Iyer have been **** in tests against spin since the last year

Our batting against spin has been mediocre for close to 7-8 years, this is not something new.

 

[Socerer 01]

So looks like Stokes' crying last game helped, 4-6 decisions consistently gone in Eng's favor including that missed lbw vs Robinson on 10 last evening!

dont worry noted guardian of the spirit of cricket Stokes will be on the case for India’s sake in the media tonight

 

[honestbharani]

Still dont think the wicket is as bad as we are making it out to be.

 

[Socerer 01]

Our batting against spin has been mediocre for close to 7-8 years, this is not something new.

its gotten notably worse

let me try pulling the stats for it

 

[Himannv]

I reckon India are just about ahead at the moment.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Stokes’ management of spinners is probably his best asset as a captain. And he has many assets

Where Root and Cook struggled big time was handling the spinners.

 

[Aidan11]

Getting a bit dark out there.

 

[GIMH]

I wonder how @Son Of Coco will claim England winning two tests in a series in India is copying Australia?

 

[subshakerz]

Still dont think the wicket is as bad as we are making it out to be.

It has a bit of grip in it but still seems solid to bat on. Good wicket.

 

[cnerd123]

Called it. Actually 220 was optimistic

Some of you in this thread need to actually watch the cricket before accusing intelligent posters here of Gambhiring. You just come off as a massive dickweed when proven wrong

Can't believe we ****ing rested Bumrah with a series on the line. And how the hell did Patidar get a Test gig

 

[Socerer 01]

and yes Stokes has been superb with his captaincy for spin

he is the best captain for spinners in test cricket today and maybe even in the last decade

 

[Socerer 01]

It has a bit of grip in it but still seems solid to bat on. Good wicket.

250-300 was par on this pitch

make of that what you will

 

[White Ball]

It is annoying though coz I feel Rohit's captaincy again left a lot to be desired on the field. He was just almost gng by rote - leftie batting, keep Ashwin on, rightie comes in, get Jaddu here, keep a seamer on one end, forget about Kuldeep. I am not sure England made much more than a par score here and honestly I think we should be getting 350 on this track even with the cracks getting wider as its still really slow and low and its not uneven in bounce or pace. But we had a genuine chance to keep them to 250 and we let it go coz of **** captaincy.

Agree with this completely I don’t think this is as bad a deck as is being made out! The captaincy was poor let the game drift and now the batting bar Jaiswal has been woeful. To get out bowled by Hartley and Bashir is unacceptable imo

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Lets be real here. If you dont fancy yourself against THIS Indian side, you should never be playing international cricket. Its what I said last test too. Our batting is being held up by a couple of guys but overall, if your second best bat is a guy playing his second test and we keep carrying passengers like Mukesh in that 2nd test and Pattidar here, it is gonna come back to bite us.

England should win easily here.

Have you seen our attack?

2 kids who had never played a test match and had less than 30 first class games between them and a pensioner.