***Official*** England in India 2016/17

[Jono]

Fair enough on MOTM, Rahul Dravid's son innings really stands out from all the other rubbish performances.

 

[MW1304]

The umpire is being a human being who lives in India and knows that any kind of actual umpiring of the biggest star in the country will be looked on far from positively. If you don't think that at the very least has subconcious pressure then you need to do a bit of reading on psychology.

Now you're bringing armchair psychology into this? Come on man, you're better than this.

If it was Nigel Llong, in a home game with roles reversed and Stokes yelling at him, we'd all be in agreement that he just sucks.

 

[Jono]

Morgan tried to go for it atleast. Root was woeful.

I said that already ya mong

 

[Shri]

If you can watch Kohli bollocking the umpire with no censure what so ever, plus multiple howlers all in India's favour then fair enough. Strange how these terrible umpires only make mistakes which benefit India though aye?

Calling Bucknor a racist **** was deplorable in 2008 for his Sydney shocker and this is just as wrong too. They are just ****** ****ing umpires, move on.

 

[91Jmay]

You'd think that if the umpires were partisan they'd do their thing with more sublety like not calling Stokes out after he was out on a no-ball. Not give decisions that the public are going to barbecue for. Bad umpire under pressure is all there is to it imo.

There should be neutral umpires for all games anyway. **** this.

Not calling Stokes out he was bowled. That wasn't one of the terrible decisions that favoured India. Talking two clear LBWs not given then Root given on a ball he middled.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I said that already ya mong

You didn't say Root was woeful. It's absolutely necessary we say this on a day where we slayed Pandey for doing the same thing.

 

[theegyptian]

Can't help but feel they are pissing it up the wall batting Buttler at 6 in ODIS and T20s. Nothing but a vanity exercise from Morgan and whoever. Are we really better off having Stokes and Morgan batting above Buttler? They are basically saying that Buttler is there to hack a few at the end and we don't trust him anymore than that. Morgan's a middling international player these days and only getting worse. Buttler should be on the rise but he needs the experience and responsibility of batting higher to truly reach his full potential. Then again Dhoni scored plenty of runs from 6 so maybe I'm wrong

 

[Jono]

You didn't say Root was woeful. It's absolutely necessary we say this on a day where we slayed Pandey for doing the same thing.

Root is specifically mentioned in that post ya mong

 

[91Jmay]

Now you're bringing armchair psychology into this? Come on man, you're better than this.

If it was Nigel Llong, in a home game with roles reversed and Stokes yelling at him, we'd all be in agreement that he just sucks.

When that happens I will say the same thing. Interesting you have to build a strawman though, also again interesting these terrible umpires don't get them wrong for India.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Root is specifically mentioned in that post ya mong

He was woeful. Say he was woeful. Otherwise it's unfair on pandey.

 

[Jono]

Next match is in Bangalore? Cool

 

[Burner]

Not calling Stokes out he was bowled. That wasn't one of the terrible decisions that favoured India. Talking two clear LBWs not given then Root given on a ball he middled.

No, you don't understand. Calling Stokes back was the correct decision but if they are partisan umpires like you say they are, they could have let it slide and not as much fuss as them making bad lbw calls would be made.

 

[Jono]

wait, I thought Rahul got MOTM. Now Bumrash has it?

 

[91Jmay]

No, you don't understand. Calling Stokes back was the correct decision but if they are partisan umpires like you say they are, they could have let it slide and not as much fuss as them making bad lbw calls would be made.

Given the 3rd umpire checks for no balls on all wickets, no they couldn't

 

[OverratedSanity]

Only one team played in the spirit of the game imo

 

[OverratedSanity]

Can't help but feel they are pissing it up the wall batting Buttler at 6 in ODIS and T20s. Nothing but a vanity exercise from Morgan and whoever. Are we really better off having Stokes and Morgan batting above Buttler? They are basically saying that Buttler is there to hack a few at the end and we don't trust him anymore than that. Morgan's a middling international player these days and only getting worse. Buttler should be on the rise but he needs the experience and responsibility of batting higher to truly reach his full potential. Then again Dhoni scored plenty of runs from 6 so maybe I'm wrong

He should definitely be coming up the order. He's the best hitter in the team... keeping him down there at 6 doesn't make much sense in a 20 over game.

 

[Jono]

91Jmay's reaction, right or wrong, probably does prove that we should just get neutral umpires so not only is there no national bias, but there is no perception of national bias.

 

[91Jmay]

India fully deserved the win though, great death bowling and even with umpires against them England batted very poorly in last 5 overs. Root was terrible for 2nd game in a row.

 

[MW1304]

When that happens I will say the same thing. Interesting you have to build a strawman though, also again interesting these terrible umpires don't get them wrong for India.

I don't have to do anything, but it's a pertinent comparison. If you're making the case based on the three examples today, you're not convincing anyone. No need to assume the worst.

 

[Contra]

Given the 3rd umpire checks for no balls on all wickets, no they couldn't

Only if the umpire in the middle asks the player to stay while they check. The 3rd umpire doesn't do it by himself.