Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Haha. Well he dropped Goodwin on zero and he made a triple century. Not sure if he dropped any others or even if he conceded a load of byes. Just dropped a regulation edge and the bloke went onto score massively.
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*Official* England in Bangladesh
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
Meaning Prior? Not sure I agree, tbh. Thoroughly decent in tests, but has never convinced me in the shorter forms.
Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Pretty sure he meant Davies, he's expressed praise of him throughout this thread and then included him in his lineup below.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
That would probly make more sense, yes.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Meant Davies, but at the same time there's no point excluding Kieswetter because Prior is a better keeper.
Don't think Bresnan is a notch ahead of much to be honest, would personally expect Plunkett to have much better chances at a sucesfull test career than him, not that I hold out all that much hope for either.
The_roc
U19 Captain
So you are rating him on the basis of him dropping one catch (albeit where the batter went onto score a few). I'm certain that Davies, Prior and Foster all dropped their share in the last season. Dropping an easy chance only to see the batsman score a shed full is not unique. Ask Nassar Hussain.
Kieswetter is a young man (18 months younger than Davies) still learning his trade. I'd rate him as competent, rather than spectacular, with the gloves, not in the same league as Foster. Still good enough to have the gloves in a ODI, still a way from challenging for the gloves at test level.
SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
Bresnan
Shahzad
Plunkett
Finn
Tredwell
I dont think i can remember a worse bowling lineup (on paper) in an England match. 'A' game or not!
Shahzad
Plunkett
Finn
Tredwell
I dont think i can remember a worse bowling lineup (on paper) in an England match. 'A' game or not!
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Depends whether Onions is fit imo. If so, Finn won't get a look in. If not, they may well fancy someone doing what Harmison did last time out here.
KP's a worry though.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
I think he'd need to fail until the end of the next Ashes series to be dropped.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Would think so especially with Rashid not being in the squad!
Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yes, I said that Kieswetter was a poor keeper based off one drop
Might help if you actually read the post I was replying to. King Pietersen said he'd never seen him put a foot wrong, so I pointed out an instance where he put a foot wrong, at a massive cost for his side I might add.
His glovework is only just up to scratch from what I've seen. That's not based upon one costly drop but the fact everytime I've seen him play he's just looked average as a keeper.
The_roc
U19 Captain
You shouldn't be so presumptious as to assume that you know what I have, or haven't read.Yes, I said that Kieswetter was a poor keeper based off one drop
Might help if you actually read the post I was replying to. King Pietersen said he'd never seen him put a foot wrong, so I pointed out an instance where he put a foot wrong, at a massive cost for his side I might add.
His glovework is only just up to scratch from what I've seen. That's not based upon one costly drop but the fact everytime I've seen him play he's just looked average as a keeper.
I believe that KP's original comment was probably factually accurate (that he hadn't seen him put a foot wrong). The fact that you have seen something different does not make the original comment wrong. To challenge the comment on the basis that you have seen 1 dropped catch is a bit facile. How many cricketers are there out there that haven't made 1 mistake. It's a bit like me saying your post was wrong because he didn't put a foot wrong, it was the position of his gloves that were the problem.
In the space of just over a paragraph you've described Kieswetter variously as poor, just up to scratch and average. You need to make up your mind. For me, average with the gloves and well above average with the bat - what more do you want from a 22 year old.