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**Official** County Cricket 2017
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theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Lots of English talent being picked up for the Bangladesh Premier League.
Dawson, Luis Reece, Buttler, Denly, Malan, Benny Howell, Jofra Archer, Luke Wright, Samit, Lyth, Bopara, Willey, Hain, Whiteley, Plunkett
Interesting the way it's going. With the incentives of getting picked up by foreign t20 comps, all the younger players will focus on those skills. Pros will give up earlier on their international intentions of test cricket, and look to play t20.
Guys like Buttler, Billings, Roy, Hales, Willey. They are going to be so in demand for t20 comps (and white ball cricket for England) that they simply aren't going to have the time to focus on the red ball game. They'll play the odd first class game but that's it.
Billings actually right now is the exception to the rule in that it looks like he's going to be playing 5 first class games in a row. I do like Billings makeup as a first class batsman even though his record is modest. Very good through the leg side against pace, quick onto the short ball, less good through offside. Good against spin. Unfortunately doesn't quite seem to have the right mentality to put together really big scores - probably because the lack of consistent first class cricket.
I actually like Shane Warne's idea that rather than be the reserve keeper in Aus, Buttler should captain the lions over there. At some point with Buttler, he and England have to decide if he/(they) really wants to play test cricket. If he and England agree that they want him to play test cricket, then taking him on a couple of lions tours to play first class cricket (instead of playing big bash, bpl) and skip the IPL at the start of next summer. If he doesn't well then stop taking him as reserve keeper/bat on these overseas tours and develop someone else. At the moment it's kind of half in and half out - that doesn't progress anything if looking for long term solutions in the makeup of the test team. Hard to see how Buttler could make it as a test player with the current situation.
Likeliest scenario is they take Buttler as reserver keeper/bat to Aus. I'd take Foakes who is the better keeper and first class bat. Billings, if he manages a big score in these last couple of championship games rather than a pretty 50, could be an outside bet. I'd certainly like Billings more than Buttler - even though they have broadly similar first class careers.
Dawson, Luis Reece, Buttler, Denly, Malan, Benny Howell, Jofra Archer, Luke Wright, Samit, Lyth, Bopara, Willey, Hain, Whiteley, Plunkett
Interesting the way it's going. With the incentives of getting picked up by foreign t20 comps, all the younger players will focus on those skills. Pros will give up earlier on their international intentions of test cricket, and look to play t20.
Guys like Buttler, Billings, Roy, Hales, Willey. They are going to be so in demand for t20 comps (and white ball cricket for England) that they simply aren't going to have the time to focus on the red ball game. They'll play the odd first class game but that's it.
Billings actually right now is the exception to the rule in that it looks like he's going to be playing 5 first class games in a row. I do like Billings makeup as a first class batsman even though his record is modest. Very good through the leg side against pace, quick onto the short ball, less good through offside. Good against spin. Unfortunately doesn't quite seem to have the right mentality to put together really big scores - probably because the lack of consistent first class cricket.
I actually like Shane Warne's idea that rather than be the reserve keeper in Aus, Buttler should captain the lions over there. At some point with Buttler, he and England have to decide if he/(they) really wants to play test cricket. If he and England agree that they want him to play test cricket, then taking him on a couple of lions tours to play first class cricket (instead of playing big bash, bpl) and skip the IPL at the start of next summer. If he doesn't well then stop taking him as reserve keeper/bat on these overseas tours and develop someone else. At the moment it's kind of half in and half out - that doesn't progress anything if looking for long term solutions in the makeup of the test team. Hard to see how Buttler could make it as a test player with the current situation.
Likeliest scenario is they take Buttler as reserver keeper/bat to Aus. I'd take Foakes who is the better keeper and first class bat. Billings, if he manages a big score in these last couple of championship games rather than a pretty 50, could be an outside bet. I'd certainly like Billings more than Buttler - even though they have broadly similar first class careers.
FBU
International Debutant
Buttler has played 5 f/c matches in 2 years 145 runs at 15.62.
2017 so far
Foakes 612 runs at 46.30
A Davies 812 at 42.73
Think Bayliss will take Buttler who thinks a good ODI series will get him into the Test team at number 7. I would take Foakes.
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SeamUp
International Coach
If the BPL is effected by the Global T20 then Billings, Hales, Roy are in the latter.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Kent, Hampshire invited for WI Regional Super50 - ESPNcricinfo
Kent and Hampshire invited to Caribbean 50 over comp. Eng lions out there at similar time playing WI A. They'd almost be better having two England lions/development team in the comp, rather than playing the a games. Don't think the counties really want the expense and the time to take a month out of preseason playing a heavy competition - even though Kent did it last year. Would be perfect for the upcoming Eng players.
Kent and Hampshire invited to Caribbean 50 over comp. Eng lions out there at similar time playing WI A. They'd almost be better having two England lions/development team in the comp, rather than playing the a games. Don't think the counties really want the expense and the time to take a month out of preseason playing a heavy competition - even though Kent did it last year. Would be perfect for the upcoming Eng players.
FBU
International Debutant
BPL 2 Nov - 10 Dec
Global T20 - 3 Nov - Dec 16
BB 9 Dec - Feb 04
Hales didn't want to travel to Bangladesh with England.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Crane not selected for Hampshire. lol. Gonna be pretty redic when he gets his ashes call.
I don't blame Hampshire particularly. He's possibly at one of the worst counties for game time in first class cricket. You have Dawson who will always play when available, and who spins the ball in the same direction as Crane. Rose Bowl is pretty flat and doesn't really offer much spin. Hampshire in div 1 and always in relegation battle so can't just give Crane a few games like div 2 teams would. Plus it's late september.
I don't blame Hampshire particularly. He's possibly at one of the worst counties for game time in first class cricket. You have Dawson who will always play when available, and who spins the ball in the same direction as Crane. Rose Bowl is pretty flat and doesn't really offer much spin. Hampshire in div 1 and always in relegation battle so can't just give Crane a few games like div 2 teams would. Plus it's late september.
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SeamUp
International Coach
Was looking at the Middlesex squad and thinking how unlucky Holden is to be left out totally and it's probably because of the relegation fight.
Also on Hampshire. The academy isn't doing too badly - Weatherley, Vince, Alsop, Organ, Dawson, Crane all young and produced by their academy and been in ECB pipeline.
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SeamUp
International Coach
Warwickshire are just so poor this season. Got lots of big decisions to make. Seniors to be questioned like Ian Bell. How good is their youth they backing ? Maybe T20 stuff but for 4-day cricket ?
Warks 53/6 (30.0 ov, JS Patel 2*, IR Bell 23*, BO Coad 2/11) - Lunch | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo
Warks 53/6 (30.0 ov, JS Patel 2*, IR Bell 23*, BO Coad 2/11) - Lunch | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo
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theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Should be easier to rebuild in div 2. Transfers they've already made Hose, Sibley, Rhodes should change the demographics of the squad and they have tried a load of trialists and randoms this season, some of whom they'll pick up. They'll keep around most of the better older players Bell, Trott, Barker etc. Dunno about Jeetan. Still did well in the t20.
Javid and Porterfield (and rikki clarke already going) already leaving. Wouldn't be surprising if Rankin too - always injured or playing for ireland.
Javid and Porterfield (and rikki clarke already going) already leaving. Wouldn't be surprising if Rankin too - always injured or playing for ireland.
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SeamUp
International Coach
Strong words from Beefy here. Looks like ECB is planning on rewarding counties producing players if they leave for other counties.
Coughlin linked to Notts. Not sure if he is needed.
Sir Ian Botham Statement: Coughlin to leave DCCC
Coughlin linked to Notts. Not sure if he is needed.
Sir Ian Botham Statement: Coughlin to leave DCCC
SeamUp
International Coach
Liam Banks any good ? See they played Henry Brookes last game and you said he is a player to look out for. Both in current Eng u19 set-up.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Banks didn't really look up to first class standard the couple of times i've seen him bat. Might do in time as he is only 18. He'd have played more this year if he was anything like good.
Coughlin gone to Notts.
Firebreaker
Banned
It would be farce if Bayliss selects Buttler instead of Davies or Foakes for the Ashes
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
ECB have certainly rewarded Durham handsomely over the years. ****ing scum.
The stitch-up continues. Don't think it'll really hurt Durham in the short-term though, Coughlin wasn't pulling up any trees.
YorksLanka
International Debutant
Agree with both the statement and your comments..Durham have been shafted by the ECB and its their fault only giving northern counties international's at the worst times in terms of the weather..
SeamUp
International Coach
Jeets scored a 112 ball hundred. I had to look again.
SeamUp
International Coach
That bad ey ?
They certainly do need to look at the transfer policy like the academy's in football (I don't agree with btw) so hopefully some sort of protection is there for the clubs. So it has to be a positive.
Notts seem to want a seamer all-rounder. They will probably look forat a batsman now. The Notts academy has not done as well as it should have imo