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[Daemon]

Might be because he's embarrassed.

 

[Hurricane]

Might be because he's embarrassed.

Indeed -

when are you going to get your 100th 100
when will you retire
why did you just get out for less than 50
are expectations weighing heavy on you
why is the Indian cricket team under performing
etc

If I was a player I would do interviews sparingly. There isn't really an opportunity to say the truth at these interviews and I would find that tiresome.

why is your team underperforming:
The truth - we have weak bowling and we are in a transition period with our batting.
The acceptable answer - We have been playing a lot of cricket and Australia are playing very well - I look forward to our next game we will be working very hard in the nets.

 

[mono]

India news: Kris Srikkanth loses his temper after India's Asia Cup squad is announced | India Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

is this guy serious? :o

 

[ankitj]

Nah, truth is, people haven't been supporting India because they've recently begun turning into the America of cricket. Nearly everything in cricket news seems to be Indian dominated, every cricket video on youtube has some Indian knob commentating on it, then the whole Sachin-mania. This by itself wasn't too bad, but then you combine that with the fact that they somehow became no 1 in tests despite having a non-existent bowling attack. Add the IPL, which to many is kinda anti-cricket, and then that period for about a year having to listen to Shastri and Gavaskar commentating during every Indian game. So, to a lot of people, their cricket has been unlikeable.

Thats the truth dude. Its not racism or anything like that. People don't hate Indians. But recently they do dislike Indian cricket. And its fun to root against them.

Don't worry, things will probably change soon enough. Shastri and Gavaskar seem slightly more humble than before, which to me makes it 10x easier to support your team.

If a struggling Pak or WI win something, its a welcome thing but if india with a weak bowling attack gets to top spot it's somehow reason to dislike Indian team? Duh! Give me something better than that.

For all the Sachin mania there is bigging up of a Warne over the years. Even the 'experts' get on the Warne mania but no one seems to have a problem with that. And India did not publish 'Harmison is the next Ambrose' article.

BCCI and IPL are not popular even among Indian fans, so I don't know how you hold it against India. It's not for the lack of will that other boards have not been able to set up t20 league. For every troll like Shastri and Gavaskar, there is Vaughan and Chappell.

Talking of conduct, if the Bell incident and the Thirimane incident are not examples of good conduct, I don't know what is. Which other team can boast of absolute gentlemen and role models like Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Kumble playing together? Talking of bad conduct, Asif and Amer's deeds haven't made Pakistan unpopular! And the douchiest thing to have happened on cricket field in recent past was how 4-5 Kiwi cricketers bullied SA batsman (whose name I can't recall) in WC quarter final. And the worst fan behaviour would be stone pelting in Bangladesh last WC. If Indians did these things all hell would break loose.

So none of these really explains the general anti India mood. Only thing that probably does is the vocal and numerous Indian fans which basically is a function of the fact that internet users from India outnumber those from any other cricketing nation by 10:1. It's not like crap is not posted by Aussies for examples on YouTube. It's less because of fewer users. So on effect all the anti India sentiment has to do with number of active fans. And if that looks like a rational reason to you, good luck.

 

[Burgey]

Lolz

 

[NasserFan207]

If a struggling Pak or WI win something, its a welcome thing but if india with a weak bowling attack gets to top spot it's somehow reason to dislike Indian team? Duh! Give me something better than that.

For all the Sachin mania there is bigging up of a Warne over the years. Even the 'experts' get on the Warne mania but no one seems to have a problem with that. And India did not publish 'Harmison is the next Ambrose' article.

BCCI and IPL are not popular even among Indian fans, so I don't know how you hold it against India. It's not for the lack of will that other boards have not been able to set up t20 league. For every troll like Shastri and Gavaskar, there is Vaughan and Chappell.

Talking of conduct, if the Bell incident and the Thirimane incident are not examples of good conduct, I don't know what is. Which other team can boast of absolute gentlemen and role models like Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Kumble playing together? Talking of bad conduct, Asif and Amer's deeds haven't made Pakistan unpopular! And the douchiest thing to have happened on cricket field in recent past was how 4-5 Kiwi cricketers bullied SA batsman (whose name I can't recall) in WC quarter final. And the worst fan behaviour would be stone pelting in Bangladesh last WC. If Indians did these things all hell would break loose.

So none of these really explains the general anti India mood. Only thing that probably does is the vocal and numerous Indian fans which basically is a function of the fact that internet users from India outnumber those from any other cricketing nation by 10:1. It's not like crap is not posted by Aussies for examples on YouTube. It's less because of fewer users. So on effect all the anti India sentiment has to do with number of active fans. And if that looks like a rational reason to you, good luck.

Well speaking from a personal perspective, I'm a far bigger fan of the bowling side of cricket than the batting one, can't speak for others. I just find Indian cricket dull to watch, as it tends to become a battle of bowling ineptitude and batting giants.

As to the rest, none of those things are that big but they all add up.

Personally I don't have any problem with India's conduct. I think the actual Indian team are mostly good guys. Not sure what thats all about tbh

Also, people hated Australia's guts during Warne's height. And believe it or not, West Indies had plenty of haters too (though less due to the style of cricket they played). I can't stand the Pakistan cricket board, think they are a bunch of corrupt bastards for the most part. And obviously Amir, Asif and Butt are all cheating ****s. But there's no real reason to then hate the actual Pakistan team, in fact it makes them underdogs. You should probably take all this as a compliment, I dunno.

 

[Spark]

The most pressing thing for me is the simple fact that I have rarely seen a cricket team resort so quickly to "we don't really give a ****" mentality when behind in a Test match.

Also, Perth, and a number of incidents there.

 

[Hurricane]

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/47476-test-teams-your-order-preference.html

This is unscientific but India is not the most hated side on CW.

I have counted the number of last placed votes in this old thread

Pakistan 2
Australia 20
SA 8
India 14
WI 3
NZ 2
England 8
Bangers 4
sl 2

Amongst CW fans who completed this thread - India finished 2nd amongst bottom placed votes. Australia had the most bottom placed votes - in part because of a block vote from the English fans and their Ashes rivalry.

This is pretty unscientific because this is an old thread but it is still usefull as many people don't change their team preferences. I know I haven't.

My major point I am making is that all teams have people who don't cheer for them. And I don't think there is anything for any fan to get concerned about - people have rivalries and teams they love to hate.

 

[Spark]

Indeed -

when are you going to get your 100th 100
when will you retire
why did you just get out for less than 50
are expectations weighing heavy on you
why is the Indian cricket team under performing
etc

If I was a player I would do interviews sparingly. There isn't really an opportunity to say the truth at these interviews and I would find that tiresome.

why is your team underperforming:
The truth - we have weak bowling and we are in a transition period with our batting.
The acceptable answer - We have been playing a lot of cricket and Australia are playing very well - I look forward to our next game we will be working very hard in the nets.

Sparingly I can understand.

Never? How can he be tired of answering a question he's never actually showed up to answer?

As benchy says, it's not about getting a grilling from the media. It's about communicating with your fans who pay their hard-earned to watch you play (and in his case, it genuinely is plenty of people paying just to watch him play). The questions you listed are for the most part legitimate questions that fans that at least deserve a response from the man himself, even if he can't say the honest truth. At a minimum some acknowledgement would be nice.

 

[mono]

At one point in time sachin tendulkar was being considered bradman's superior, this was mostly the indian media hyping him. twelve months later the, same people are now asking for sachin's retirement. What a joke.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Not really. It's how the media circus always behaves.

 

[mono]

Not really. It's how the media circus always behaves.

media has a tendency to sensationalize, but this is a whole another level.

 

[Daemon]

Sparingly I can understand.

Never? How can he be tired of answering a question he's never actually showed up to answer?

As benchy says, it's not about getting a grilling from the media. It's about communicating with your fans who pay their hard-earned to watch you play (and in his case, it genuinely is plenty of people paying just to watch him play). The questions you listed are for the most part legitimate questions that fans that at least deserve a response from the man himself, even if he can't say the honest truth. At a minimum some acknowledgement would be nice.

Funnily enough, the fans you talk about aren't actually complaining.

 

[Furball]

I don't mind people hating the BCCI, or India's stance on UDRS, or even specific Indian players. But they showed excellent sportsmanship in those two incidents, which is more important than most other things in cricket.

In fact, many Indian supporters (including myself) wanted Bell and Thirimanne not to be called back. Especially when the reaction from Jayawardene and the Lankan team is to actually criticise India for even appealing, which is ridiculous.

The problem with Dhoni is that for every good incident, there's an equivelant dick move. No other captain in the world whines about umpires as much as MS Dhoni and he's really getting on my nerves.

Which comes back to the BCCI's ludicrous stands on UDRS. It can't possibly just be a coincidence that the captain who is the biggest whinger around also happens to represent the one board who are completely opposed to UDRS.

 

[ankitj]

Sparingly I can understand.

Never? How can he be tired of answering a question he's never actually showed up to answer?

As benchy says, it's not about getting a grilling from the media. It's about communicating with your fans who pay their hard-earned to watch you play (and in his case, it genuinely is plenty of people paying just to watch him play). The questions you listed are for the most part legitimate questions that fans that at least deserve a response from the man himself, even if he can't say the honest truth. At a minimum some acknowledgement would be nice.

I have heard many random criticisms of Tendulkar over the years. This one frankly is more ridiculous than most. Has to be said, mate. Go over your post again. Different individuals have different styles. You could criticize one for some poor on-field behaviour or off-field statements, but criticizing someone for how they choose to live their lives is splitting the hair bit too much. It's his ****ing life!

 

[Ikki]

Yeah...but he chose to be an International cricketer. I'm not saying you have to agree with Spark, but the criticism is pretty understandable.

 

[Burgey]

Funnily enough, the fans you talk about aren't actually complaining.

The last few pages of this thread suggest otherwise.

 

[Spark]

I have heard many random criticisms of Tendulkar over the years. This one frankly is more ridiculous than most. Has to be said, mate. Go over your post again. Different individuals have different styles. You could criticize one for some poor on-field behaviour or off-field statements, but criticizing someone for how they choose to live their lives is splitting the hair bit too much. It's his ****ing life!

Which I didn't do. How is taking 15 minutes out of his time after a match or after training to talk to the media once or twice in a two month two a massive impost?

I have no idea why this media embargo has happened. It might not even have been his decision. But I don't think it's a good idea.

 

[Spikey]

He's a professional cricket player. He's expected to do press conferences. He also happens to be a senior player on the team. On a team that is going through a tough tour. So he sends some kid like Ashwin to go do tough press conferences?

 

[Spark]

It was the worst at Adelaide, I think, where Ashwin was sent out having done approximately nothing that day.