***OFFICIAL*** BBL | 06 Thread

[mackembhoy]

I don't really remember from the world cup, but his super over in one of the matches when we were touring the UAE in 2015 was awesome.

I do think there's a general perception of him being a better T20 bowler than he actually is. I mean, he's certainly not the worst ever, but I wouldn't say he's particularly special either. Better than many of the others going around in the BBL from what I've seen though, tbf. Can't comment on the IPL.

His fielding is legitimately great, though, and may make him seem a more attractive proposition, though I can't imagine it consistently making a massive difference to the outcome of a game.

Edit: Sniped by PEWS' more succinct and generally better answer.

He was heading for the scrapheap prior to that for England.

He's marginally better than Dernbach. Probably the worst I've seen put on an England shirt.

 

[Bijed]

He's marginally better than Dernbach.

I don't especially rate him, but that's just uncalled for imo

 

[mackembhoy]

I don't especially rate him, but that's just uncalled for imo

In T20i Jordan averages 26.79 Dernbach 26.15. Dernbach with econ of 8.71 Jordan 8.63

I only see Jordan's going up if we're stupid enough to play him.

 

[TheBrand]

Is the reason they only allow 2 overseas players in each team/squad just to try and promote as much local talent as possible? In the IPL you can have 4 per team in game and 9 in the squad! Mainly I'd like to see more Kiwis in the Big Bash, particularly Mitch McClenaghan and maybe even Colin Munro haha.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Haha yeah that was his fourth game of the season and the first in which he bowled. They'll probably be regretting not bowling him earlier now...

A lot of BBL sides this year are going too bowling heavy IMO

I'm assuming they probably know better than me but from what I've seen they're overestimating the value of having extra bowling options if one "has a bad day", and as a result leaving them short of batting. Like quite a few sides have had 8+ genuine bowling options and then a tail starting at 8 or even 7.

In Hobart's case having Dan Christian and not bowling him, then having 4 specialist bowlers who can't bat that well seems dumb. Last nights Hobart side looked much better, with a longer batting line up.

Maybe I'm underestimating the importance of having extra bowlers if 1 or 2 don't come off, but juts seems to me that having extra batting would be more important.

Is the reason they only allow 2 overseas players in each team/squad just to try and promote as much local talent as possible? In the IPL you can have 4 per team in game and 9 in the squad! Mainly I'd like to see more Kiwis in the Big Bash, particularly Mitch McClenaghan and maybe even Colin Munro haha.

a lot of the overseas players haven't been that good anyway. It's not like the IPL where everyone is available and the 4 players per side are stars and usually the best 4 players in the team. During the BBL most countries are busy playing international series and the overseas players are the leftovers, not superstars.

Even if you gave them the option of 4 overseas players they'd be hard pressed to find 4 per side who were good enough to even be selected ahead of "local talent"

 

[Prince EWS]

A lot of BBL sides this year are going too bowling heavy IMO

I'm assuming they probably know better than me but from what I've seen they're overestimating the value of having extra bowling options if one "has a bad day", and as a result leaving them short of batting. Like quite a few sides have had 8+ genuine bowling options and then a tail starting at 8 or even 7.

In Hobart's case having Dan Christian and not bowling him, then having 4 specialist bowlers who can't bat that well seems dumb. Last nights Hobart side looked much better, with a longer batting line up.

Maybe I'm underestimating the importance of having extra bowlers if 1 or 2 don't come off, but juts seems to me that having extra batting would be more important.

I think teams are almost finding that balancing their teams is 'too easy' with the amount of (essentially specialist in other formats) batsmen who can get through three or four cheap overs and the amount of (essentially specialist in other formats) bowlers who can hit a bit and are perfectly fine to have at 7 or 8 in a twenty over innings.

Finding it too easy to balance sides is just as big a headache as finding it too hard to balance sides though, particularly when the opposition is having similar issues.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I think teams are almost finding that balance their teams is 'too easy' with the amount of (essentially specialist in other formats) batsmen who can get through three or four cheap overs and the amount of (essentially specialist in other formats) bowlers who can hit a bit and are perfectly fine to have at 7 or 8 in a twenty over innings.

Finding it too easy to balance sides is just as big a headache as finding it too hard to balance sides though, particularly when the opposition is having similar issues.

This is the perfect example for mine:

10th Match: Brisbane Heat v Hobart Hurricanes at Brisbane, Dec 30, 2016 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Dan Christian playing and not bowling, and they've played 5 specialist bowlers (a few who can bat a bit). How much better would the side have been with, say, Kingston or Boyce out and a specialist batsman replacing them.

Anyway like I said I'm sure they know what they're doing a lot better than I do, but I just don't get it right now

 

[Prince EWS]

This is the perfect example for mine:

10th Match: Brisbane Heat v Hobart Hurricanes at Brisbane, Dec 30, 2016 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Dan Christian playing and not bowling, and they've played 5 specialist bowlers (a few who can bat a bit). How much better would the side have been with, say, Kingston or Boyce out and a specialist batsman replacing them.

Anyway like I said I'm sure they know what they're doing a lot better than I do, but I just don't get it right now

Yeah indeed, but I'm sure they'd argue that having Rose come in at #9 and hit 17* (12) while they never got bowled out proved they batted deep enough.. and you'd see it the other way where teams sort of stack the batting and have blokes DNB and DNB in a game.

At domestic level you always end up with more allrounders, and this is exaggerated in T20 cricket where it's more based on raw skill than refined practice, so a lot of the time teams really only need nine or ten players to have their six bowling options and decent batsmen right through the innings. I think this has meant teams sometimes struggle to effectively use their eleven slots. It's created weird situations like Christian being in seemingly awesome bowling form but not bowling at all for three games straight, just because they need to bowl the guys lower down to justify their selections.

 

[Dan]

Mark Waugh knowing something about Dwarshuis suggests to me that a T20i call up is entirely possible. Which is terrifying.

 

[Gnske]

My boi Jimmy is just too good for New South Welshmen

 

[Starfighter]

Thornton's bowling action reminiscent of Nantie Hayward's.

 

[Starfighter]

Yes! Somebody finally dismissed Lynn.

 

[NUFAN]

Abbott is playing himself into Australian T20 contention with these past 6 overs. TBJ that's exactly what I think about the extra bowling options too.

 

[Gnske]

This will be an excellent innings from Burns at a sub-100 strike rate of about 95

 

[morgieb]

Wow this Sixers bowling lineup lacks depth. TBF Somerville's gone decently but I really don't get Dwarhuis.

 

[Spark]

All this game is doing is reminding me how glad I am to not have to watch Joe Burns bat in Tests any more.

 

[TheJediBrah]

About time Cutting did something. Apart from a brief IPL stint he's been ordinary for a year and a half from what I remember.

edit: nah there we go. Now in for another year of "here comes big hitting Ben Cutting he's really dangerous" then he ends up making 7 off 10 balls

 

[Spark]

About time Cutting did something. Apart from a brief IPL stint he's been ordinary for a year and a half from what I remember.

edit: nah there we go. Now in for another year of "here comes big hitting Ben Cutting he's really dangerous" then he ends up making 7 off 10 balls

Almost as if he's just a bowler who can bat a bit as opposed to an actual all-rounder...

 

[Gnske]

The greatest drop that never was

 

[Starfighter]

Quality juggle from Dwarshius.