*Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand

[NZTailender]

Haha, wow, really was not expecting this. As a Vincent fan it's great news but as a New Zealand fan you just have to feel a bit for the guys on the sidelines waiting to make their debut, especially if you miss out on someone who has only just returned and played a handful of T20 matches.

 

[marc71178]

Ryder still needs a runner in matches I think. Not much has been revealed about his injury at all, maybe theres more than just the groin strain?

How would that work though? Surely the opposing captain could just refuse?

 

[Howsie]

How would that work though? Surely the opposing captain could just refuse?

He's been doing that in A games for Wellington against under 19 teams and what not, so pretty much practice games.

Edit: Oh and ff's with Lou Vincent. Why in the world would he even be near the New Zealand team. If where picking guys on 20/20 form this season perhaps we should play guys like Seth Rance and Anton Devcich

 

[Halfpast_Yellow]

He's been doing that in A games for Wellington against under 19 teams and what not, so pretty much practice games.

Edit: Oh and ff's with Lou Vincent. Why in the world would he even be near the New Zealand team. If where picking guys on 20/20 form this season perhaps we should play guys like Seth Rance and Anton Devcich

Oh? When did those two last play for the Black Caps?

 

[Howsie]

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

 

[SilentOne]

Cricket: Ryder in for long wait on sidelines - Sport - NZ Herald News

 

[Hurricane]

Cricket: Ryder in for long wait on sidelines - Sport - NZ Herald News

Why did he have to do sprint training and reinjure it. Seems like sprint training is asking for trouble.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

I agree, if I was a fella like Rob Nicol or Shanan Stewart, I'd feel fairly shafted to see Lou Vincent in the ODI squad.
Those two have been in imperious form in domestic ODs and they both can bat in any position.
Plus it's not like they are spring chickens either, they're seasoned domestic campaigners, could have some problems with quality spin though.

Three good tonks in a handful of Twenty20s don't warrant Lou Vincent being fast tracked back for anything other than Twenty20s.
Fast tracking someone like Bond is alright as there is low supply of quality express bowlers, but fast tracking Vincent stinks of a Luke McAllister type situation.
Don't forget Watling too.

So are Mills and Ryder the only ones unavailable? How about Elliott?

From 7 down the players are locked in for me, suppose Arnel could come in:

Positions 7 - 11:
* DL Vettori
JDP Oram
DR Tuffey
TG Southee
SE Bond

Top Order:
MJ Guptill
+ BB McCullum
SB Styris
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SL Stewart / RJ Nicol

or

BJ Watling
+ BB McCullum
MJ Guptill
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SB Styris

Broom, Styris or new guy's positions are interchangeable.

 

[NZTailender]

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

Must be missing the part where Lou Vincent is actually quite a talented batsman, and better than your average NZ domestic journeyman.

But then I'm bias, I guess. Cue TH to come in say he's a talentless slogger.

 

[Hurricane]

I agree, if I was a fella like Rob Nicol or Shanan

Positions 7 - 11:
* DL Vettori
JDP Oram
DR Tuffey
TG Southee
SE Bond

Top Order:
MJ Guptill
+ BB McCullum
SB Styris
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SL Stewart / RJ Nicol

or

BJ Watling
+ BB McCullum
MJ Guptill
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SB Styris

Broom, Styris or new guy's positions are interchangeable.

Like the inclusion of Styris. Two thumbs up.
Have mixed feelings about watling in there. Happy with him in the test team at the moment.
As for Broom I don't mind him being given a run in the test team. But would prefer to see shannan stewart over him in the ODI side just to try someone else.

You make good points about Vincent. But if he can put up another few good knocks will that change your mind. 3 innings are not enough you are right.

Personally I thought that Vincent got dropped too quickly last time around. his last 5 scores in 2007. Were poor -

6 9 18 5 and 0.

But Vincent started 2007 with
66 76 90 31 73

 

[DingDong]

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

you need to stop the negative talk and start supporting him again now that he is back in the team howsie.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

As for Broom I don't mind him being given a run in the test team. But would prefer to see shannan stewart over him in the ODI side just to try someone else.

If Elliott's fit, he'd slot straight into that no. 5 possy.
He probably is alright to play, its just I haven't heard anything bout him recently.

 

[bryce]

I personally reckon Watling deserves a shot for these ODI's. Though I actually have a feeling he will be left out, he has shown that he can score quickly against a quality Pakistani attack and it is also well documented how his one-day record is far superior to his FC record. But I think that his surprise demotion in the ND T20 batting order may count against him.

1.Watling
2.McCullum
3.Guptill
4.Taylor
5.Broom/Elliott
6.Styris/Franklin
7.Oram
8.Vettori
9.Tuffey
10.Southee
11.Bond

Can't see that team getting bowled out much. Anyone know how long Mills is meant to be out for?

 

[Howsie]

I'm pretty sure Kyle Mills is out until at least March.

 

[bryce]

Anyone got squad info? Apparently McKay got picked lol. Guess that means no Franklin

 

[Howsie]

Anyone got squad info? Apparently McKay got picked lol. Guess that means no Franklin

Andy McKay Where did you hear this?

 

[bryce]

NZ Domestic thread. Can't find a link though

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

Nahh, I'm sure if a squad had been released, at least one of us would have a source.
I think it was supposed to be named the other day though.
Unless the other guy explains, it's just a baseless rumor.

 

[Flem274*]

NZ Domestic thread. Can't find a link though

Allow me:

New Zealand Cricket - BLACKCAPS squad named for Bangladesh T20 and ODI series

I'm a very happy CD fan

EDIT: May as well write the squads:

20/20

Brendon McCullum (Otago Volts)
Peter Ingram (Central Stags)
Martin Guptill (Auckland Aces)
Ross Taylor (Central Stags)
James Franklin (Wellington Firebirds)
Gareth Hopkins (Auckland Aces)
Jacob Oram (Central Stags)
Nathan McCullum (Otago Volts)
Daniel Vettori (Northern Knights)
Ian Butler (Otago Volts)
Daryl Tuffey (Auckland Aces)
Tim Southee (Northern Knights)

One-Day International squad

Brendon McCullum (Otago Volts)
Peter Ingram (Central Stags)
Martin Guptill (Auckland Aces)
Ross Taylor (Central Stags)
Neil Broom (Otago Volts)
James Franklin (Wellington Firebirds)
Daniel Vettori (Northern Knights)
Jacob Oram (Central Stags)
Ian Butler (Otago Volts)
Daryl Tuffey (Auckland Aces)
Tim Southee (Northern Knights)
Andrew McKay (Wellington Firebirds)

 

[Flem274*]

So Jimmy Franklin is back for both. Broom stays in the ODI squad. Hopkins ahead of McGlashan in the 20/20.

MacKay and.....Pinga!!111 are in.

I assume Ingram will open in place of Ryder.

Must say though no Elliott, Mills, Bond or Ryder sucks big time.