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*Official* Australia vs Pakistan in England

Athlai

Not Terrible
Not unexpected from Pakistan so far, its hardly their top order that has done very well lately. Lack of MoYo and to a lesser extent Younis (hasn't been a regular for yonks) could be telling though. Umar needs to get in the runs because they have a pretty long tail. Two untested batsman, Farhat and Aamer coming in at 8. With Butt and Afridi being 2 of your 'good' top 7!

Oh Pakistan, if your bowling wasn't so gun you'd be in serious trouble.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
The Pakistan Batting is pretty ordinary.
Their bowling though is amongst the best in the world at the moment.

If they had India's batting or If India had their bowling the combination would be unbeatable.
Though it has been a similar case now fro more than a decade,
 

TumTum

Banned
The Pakistan Batting is pretty ordinary.
Their bowling though is amongst the best in the world at the moment.

If they had India's batting or If India had their bowling the combination would be unbeatable.
Though it has been a similar case now fro more than a decade,
Indian batting + Pakistani bowling = 3/4 of Aus 99-07
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Indian batting + Pakistani bowling = 3/4 of Aus 99-07
Disagree.

India came close twice to beating Australia in Australia in the period you mentioned (and defeated the aussies in India too).
Once with Agarkar as their star bowler and once with RP,Pathan and very young Ishant Sharma.
Now Imagine the same team with Akram,Akthar,Younis,Asif etc....
 
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Teja.

Global Moderator
Disagree.

India came close twice to beating Australia in Australia in the period you mentioned.
Once with Agarkar as their star bowler and once with RP,Pathan and very young Ishant Sharma.
Now Imagine the same team with Akram,Akthar,Younis,Asif etc....
Tbf Waqar was finished by then and Akram was average, still would have tipped Pak-India to take it with comfort at home and with some difficulty away.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Aussies looking solid, but these conditions look quite good for batting. Bollinger perhaps a bit short and Johnson not finding much movement or pace - looks like Pakistan could form a big lead if they string a couple partnerships together. Top bowling from Hilfenhaus though, he really would have cleaned up if he'd bowled on the first day, imo.
even my grandma can clean this lot up blind folded.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Disagree.

India came close twice to beating Australia in Australia in the period you mentioned (and defeated the aussies in India too).
Once with Agarkar as their star bowler and once with RP,Pathan and very young Ishant Sharma.
Now Imagine the same team with Akram,Akthar,Younis,Asif etc....
I remind you that in neither of the series you're talking about was McGrath/Warne playing...
 

TumTum

Banned
Well look here tbh Indian batting and Pakistani bowling are a bit over rated. India still have batting collapses away from home and Pakistani bowlers are very inconsistent.

Australia had a golden team between 99-07. The whole line-up is filled with legends/greats, I don't think there will be a team ever as strong as that.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Well look here tbh Indian batting and Pakistani bowling are a bit over rated. India still have batting collapses away from home and Pakistani bowlers are very inconsistent.

Australia had a golden team between 99-07. The whole line-up is filled with legends/greats, I don't think there will be a team ever as strong as that.
Westindies 70's -80's says hi.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Well look here tbh Indian batting and Pakistani bowling are a bit over rated. India still have batting collapses away from home and Pakistani bowlers are very inconsistent.

Australia had a golden team between 99-07. The whole line-up is filled with legends/greats, I don't think there will be a team ever as strong as that.
The Invincibles(Bradman's farewell Ashes team) were without a doubt better, The WI of the late 70s and 80s are arguably better.
 

TumTum

Banned
Completely disagree.

1st apart from Bradman himself, most Aussies of 99-07 are better. 2ndly West Indies dominated in a time where cricket wasn't as competitive as they are today. This Australian team dominated teams in lots of different conditions.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Completely disagree.

1st apart from Bradman himself, most Aussies of 99-07 are better. 2ndly West Indies dominated in a time where cricket wasn't as competitive as they are today. This Australian team dominated teams in lots of different conditions.
Disagree,there were more good bowlers around in the late 70's and 80's and West Indies were just as dominant worldwide as Australia were.

Windies will always be the top side i have seen ahead of the Aussies from the noughties.
 

TumTum

Banned
Disagree,there were more good bowlers around in the late 70's and 80's and West Indies were just as dominant worldwide as Australia were.

Windies will always be the top side i have seen ahead of the Aussies from the noughties.
I really can't see how you can.

Australia between 99-07 have won 16 consecutive Tests TWICE! Also not to mention 3 WC's.

Now even worth comparing tbh.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
What the hell is with Butt and Australia? Averages 44 against them, 38 vs. England and is **** against every other team.
 

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