*Official* Australia tour of New Zealand Feb-Mar 2024

[Spark]

He will face Ashwin and Jadeja later this year.

Ok

 

[PlayerComparisons]

KW used up all his runs against SA

 

[Spark]

I mean if he does start getting it right he's going to be incredibly difficult to play. Not just off the surface but the ball is drifting a long way in the breeze to boot

 

[King Kane]

Another ordinary ball from Lyon gets a wicket, some bounce again but a batsman of Williamson's class should be better at dealing with that.

 

[Smudge]

He will face Ashwin and Jadeja later this year.

"How can I make this thread about India?"

 

[jcas0167]

And he's in terrible form

Didn't see the dismissal but he looked good in the Ford Trophy final last week.

 

[Spark]

Is he trying to get Ravindra out the same way he got Latham? Bring him forward ffs

 

[Flem274*]

Disagree with the comms, if NZ just let Lyon bowl at them on this deck he will find his radar and be awful to bat against. Ravindra mentally loves to dominate, let him do it. If he gets out, well that's life man maybe bat and bowl better in the first three innings.

 

[Silver Silva]

Crazy to think that he could end up with as many test wickets as Shane Warne by the end of his test career.

Warne was an all time great test spinner, Lyon is a good test spinner but he isn't a great test spinner let alone an all time great test spinner like Warne.

Taking 500 wickets is worthy of being great imo, all time great is another debate, but to have such a long career bowling offspin primarily in Australia is extremely difficult..I doubt any Aussie offspinner will ever come close to Lyon's tally.

 

[Flem274*]

Just watched the little Lyon to KW montage. Kane mate, I know you're a God, but he's an offie bowling in New Zealand. Just ****ing destroy him, don't block him. He doesn't deserve to live in our nation.

 

[Spark]

Just watched the little Lyon to KW montage. Kane mate, I know you're a God, but he's an offie bowling in New Zealand. Just ****ing destroy him, don't block him. He doesn't deserve to live in our nation.

He averages 17 in NZ lmao. That's like Axar Patel on dustbowl numbers

 

[Flem274*]

He averages 17 in NZ lmao. That's like Axar Patel on dustbowl numbers

I ****ing know. He's one of the very rare offies to do ok here, and he played at Hagley Oval too. That's the pitch to kill them all.

 

[Meridio]

Yeah I think being aggressive against Lyon here could be a good plan - so long as it's a clearly thought out plan of where you are trying to score those runs, and how you are going to bail out if it's not there for you. Reason being that he hasn't really settled into a spell, I think he's struggling a bit with the wind but is being given a lot of assistance by the pitch so even though his lengths are inconsistent he's getting away with it a bit. Trying to hit him out of the attack before he settles could be an idea; otherwise if he does settle it will be a very difficult afternoon

 

[NZTailender]

He averages 17 in NZ lmao. That's like Axar Patel on dustbowl numbers

That's nuts. We often crumble to half competent spinners when they tour, but we're dearly afraid of playing a specialist spinner in NZ.

Infuriating to be a spinner in this country. You're mostly only going to get a gig when there's a sc tour and batsmen just assume foreign spinners won't get any turn and be as easy to deal with as Plunkett shield tweakers. And no one really learns.

 

[Meridio]

Didn't see the dismissal but he looked good in the Ford Trophy final last week.

Didn't see that but scoring runs against weaker attacks pretty much perfectly fits the Latham we know

 

[Meridio]

That's nuts. We often crumble to half competent spinners when they tour, but we're dearly afraid of playing a specialist spinner in NZ.

Infuriating to be a spinner in this country. You're mostly only going to get a gig when there's a sc tour and batsmen just assume foreign spinners won't get any turn and be as easy to deal with as Plunkett shield tweakers. And no one really learns.

Yeah and the last few years we've had some pitches that actually have turned. The Mount a few times, the basin here, even last year (or year before? Can't remember) Maharaj took a bag but we haven't really learnt from it

 

[Flem274*]

Didn't see that but scoring runs against weaker attacks pretty much perfectly fits the Latham we know

He didn't make his routine ton in Asia or capitalise on a weak SA, so I think he is genuinely out of nick and not just doing his usual flatter to deceive.

 

[King Kane]

Taking 500 wickets is worthy of being great imo, all time great is another debate, but to have such a long career bowling offspin primarily in Australia is extremely difficult..I doubt any Aussie offspinner will ever come close to Lyon's tally.

He's been fortunate to get such a long run in the Australian test team with not any real competition for his spot from other Aussie spinners.

Greg Matthews was quite a good off spinner too and a far better batsman than Lyon but his career was cut short when Shane Warne arrived.

 

[Flem274*]

This is ballsy from Young but in his effort to turn himself into a real opener, he's taken away almost all of his offside scoring shots.

 

[Flem274*]

He's been fortunate to get such a long run in the Australian test team with not any real competition for his spot from other Aussie spinners.

Greg Matthews was quite a good off spinner too and a far better batsman than Lyon but his career was cut short when Shane Warne arrived.

Nah Lyon is a good player. There's degrees between Shane Warne and Bryce McGain, as Australia eventually figured out when trying to replace Warne.