sirjeremy11
State Vice-Captain
They surely have to pick Gillespie if he has some kind of form. At least he has the reputation as well.
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Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Why do you all think Gillespie needs to be in? When he hasn`t been bowling with the new ball, he has been distinctly average. And Tait has just come back from an injury. Clark however is in great form, he`s really done well for NSW and is doing well for Australia in ODIs.
My Test-bowling line-up - Lee, Bracken, Clark, Warne.
Langer
Hayden
Ponting (please be fit)
I don`t know
Symonds
Hussey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Bracken
Clark
I don`t think Hodge should be there, but I hope he (or someone else) steps up and proves me wrong.
My Test-bowling line-up - Lee, Bracken, Clark, Warne.
Langer
Hayden
Ponting (please be fit)
I don`t know
Symonds
Hussey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Bracken
Clark
I don`t think Hodge should be there, but I hope he (or someone else) steps up and proves me wrong.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
well one of the main reason everyone is thinking dizzy should be in the test team is because his form in the pura cup has been good & really he would be the best replacement for McGrath now that he seems to be back bowling well.Nnanden said:
Clark has been solid without being fantastic in ODI's really i dont think he would be that treating in test and i hope that he isn't retained in the test squad.
Hodge may not be the best option at #4 now, since he has been a bit incosistent but i say give him a chance. Also Symo might well & be retained since Watson will have to do a lot right in the remaining OD internationals to be picked over him in the test squad now.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
nothing, but its not as if he has been spectacular either. We all know OD success doesn't always mean you will do well in test, look at Lee up to recently and Clark doesn't look like a bowler who is going to really trouble much batsmen in test, i hope the selectors realise that & dont pick him.
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nnanden said:
Yeah, I reckon Jaques could be getting a run this test series. I hope he does after his rather disappointing debut.Nnanden said:Jaques at 4!
I'm still 50/50 over Clark in the test team, although I reckon he'd be worth a shot for at least one of the tests to see how he does. Tait's 6/41 puts him right back in contention, especially seeing that the wides won't matter as much in the longer form, but I doubt he'd make it because of his recent injury. With Tait therefore probably missing out, it's really got to be Clark at least for the first test, because for me, Gillespie being re-selected still seems a bit of a long shot. In terms of batting Hodge will definetely play in the first test, but I'd imagine he'd have to make good impression to keep his spot.
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
You really don`t know heaps about your cricket then. Clark has been great for NSW this season, IMO better than Gillespie in the Pura Cup. Clark has an excellent line and length, and moves it off the seam quite well.
You don`t even seem to know who Ashraful is! Only a year ago, or probably less, I didn`t like Clark. But having seeing him bowl live and on TV heaps this season, I can see why he has such a good reputation from other Australian Cricketers.
You don`t even seem to know who Ashraful is! Only a year ago, or probably less, I didn`t like Clark. But having seeing him bowl live and on TV heaps this season, I can see why he has such a good reputation from other Australian Cricketers.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
i'm not doubting Clark hasn't bowled well nor what he is capable of doing or how highly the team may rate him, but has i said before its not as if he has been ``spectacular`` in the OD & such demands a place in the test team a la to Lee just the other day. OD form doesn't always relate to good test performances, so IMO if you someone like Gillespie who is a proven test perfomer back in from he should be given the nod over someone like Clark in the test team & even Tait who performances in state cricket last season is much better than Clark best season i'm sure..Nnanden said:
BTW what does ashraful have to do with this?
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
I`m trying to kill your credibility. :P
There was a series in 2005 called The Ashes. In it, Gillespie bowled like crap. Before that series, he bowled like crap against New Zealand and Pakistan. In the ODIs, he bowled poorly. IMO, four or five good games shouldn`t get you back in. Clark has been consistently a great bowler for NSW for many years now and certainly deserves his spot. And Tait. One good season doesn`t make you a hero, nor does 6-for in an OD. And after his bowling in the Ashes and the fact that he`s just returned from injury, I wouldn`t think he`d be quite ready.
Of course Gillespie and Tait could bowl well against SA. I just think Clark will do better.
There was a series in 2005 called The Ashes. In it, Gillespie bowled like crap. Before that series, he bowled like crap against New Zealand and Pakistan. In the ODIs, he bowled poorly. IMO, four or five good games shouldn`t get you back in. Clark has been consistently a great bowler for NSW for many years now and certainly deserves his spot. And Tait. One good season doesn`t make you a hero, nor does 6-for in an OD. And after his bowling in the Ashes and the fact that he`s just returned from injury, I wouldn`t think he`d be quite ready.
Of course Gillespie and Tait could bowl well against SA. I just think Clark will do better.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Gillespie bowled crap in the ashes yes & for the entire natwest OD series except for the Oval game, he may not have took wickets in the 2004/05 home summer vs NZ & PAK nor in NZ but he was economical & on one or 2 occassions bowled well, in the VB series he complimented Lee & McGrath well same goes for the ODI's in NZ..
maybe Tait one good season where he broke the domestic record didn't make him a hero but it certainly did show his great potential especially looking at the fact that he plays at adelaide where its one of the flatest domestic pitches in australia, plus if he can take 6 wickets not even in top form showd tell you something.
We all have our views if you think Clark could possibly bowl better in the test than Dizzy or Tait if given the chance fair enough i'll just cant see how, so we will leave it as that
maybe Tait one good season where he broke the domestic record didn't make him a hero but it certainly did show his great potential especially looking at the fact that he plays at adelaide where its one of the flatest domestic pitches in australia, plus if he can take 6 wickets not even in top form showd tell you something.
We all have our views if you think Clark could possibly bowl better in the test than Dizzy or Tait if given the chance fair enough i'll just cant see how, so we will leave it as that
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Oh bugger. I completely forgot about MacGill.
My ideal first test team:
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Hodge/Jaques
Hussey
Symonds/Watson
Gilchrist
Lee
Warne
Bracken
MacGill
Both Symonds and Hodge will probably make the first test, but depending on how Watson and Jaques perform in the one dayers, and if Symonds and Hodge both fail, it could be interesting when it comes to the second test.
My ideal first test team:
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Hodge/Jaques
Hussey
Symonds/Watson
Gilchrist
Lee
Warne
Bracken
MacGill
Both Symonds and Hodge will probably make the first test, but depending on how Watson and Jaques perform in the one dayers, and if Symonds and Hodge both fail, it could be interesting when it comes to the second test.