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**Official** Australia in India Thread

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Grrr.......why are the Aussies prolonging Patel's free ride? The longer he stays, the more the opposition will benefit.
 

TendulkarFan

School Boy/Girl Captain
Spetsnatz said:
India will be hoping that when they bowl, Pathan and Zaheer can actually bowl well and get some wickets.
I think their opening spells are going to be very important -- India need early breakthroughs.


How do people see the game poised at luch and it progressing into the afternoon sessions ?
Certainly pretty even right now with India ahead by a slight margin. Despite what the commentators say, I don't think a lead of 128 can be considered a huge mental advantage against the Aussies. Indians have to bat sensibly for another session and a half and push the lead towards 200 because if Irfan and Zaheer get off to a bad start in 2nd innings, Hayden & Langer can catch up pretty quickly.

I'm also interested in seeing what effects the heat will have on the Aussie performance; looks extremely hot out there.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Zaheer should just bowl line-and-length, and let Irfan attack. Zaheer is in no great form, and should just stick to the basics.
 

TendulkarFan

School Boy/Girl Captain
Arjun said:
Grrr.......why are the Aussies prolonging Patel's free ride? The longer he stays, the more the opposition will benefit.
The way I see it he's prolonging his own ride and by no means is it coming free. He's worked hard for his runs this year and despite how much you (and myself as well) dislike him for his keeping, you can't take away his batting accomplishments from him. He has been solid for most of this year; not only scoring a lot but also scoring when the team is under pressure.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
JustTool said:
What the....?

Gilly has created a bunch of monsters who walk. :blink:

I can't fathom this lasting. Either the umpire is the FINAL arbiter or he is not. Disagreeing with him in any direction (out or not-out) is still dissent. What happens when you do have an inside edge, and let's suppose the fielding side appealed knowingly or unknowingly, and the umpire gives you out LBW ? :blink: :)
Does any one also realise how many more wrong decisions (after the horrendous first test) have been prevented by btasmen walking. Instead of just criticising the batsmen for 'dissent' (amazing considering the batsman is the only one to lose), how cpome no one is discussing at the continuing bad umpiring.

Havent the batsmen in fact saved the umpires from some more criticism (at least from the aggrieved parties) since the action replayes would show most of these decisions to be wrong anyway ?

There was a time when walking was considered not just good ethics (what a strange alien word) but also as a big helping for the umpires. I have heard some of the top umpires complaining that both batsmen and fielders could help make the umpires' job easier by being 'honest' (such a dirty word ?) in close decisions .

Today when they walk, WE, the fans are criticising them for 'dissent' !!

So everything is justified in the name of 'respecting' authority ? But sledging, shouting at umpires, refusing to listen to them inspite of repeated requests to calm down/behave...these are instances of 'justifed aggro' ??

A strange attitude indeed.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Arjun said:
Grrr.......why are the Aussies prolonging Patel's free ride? The longer he stays, the more the opposition will benefit.
This is not a free ride. It is very well earned and not the first toime for Patel too. Free ride is what Yuvraj gets from his skipper !

Patel has shown that while he does not deserve a place in this Indian side as a keeper, he should be prefered above many others, Yuvraj included, as a test batsman.

He has the game (for test matches), the head and the heart for the real battle unlike the 'stroke players' that please the front rows :D
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
TendulkarFan said:
The way I see it he's prolonging his own ride and by no means is it coming free. He's worked hard for his runs this year and despite how much you (and myself as well) dislike him for his keeping, you can't take away his batting accomplishments from him. He has been solid for most of this year; not only scoring a lot but also scoring when the team is under pressure.
His batting is nothing special, and not of top-6 quality. Even yesterday, he was dropped twice. The bowling was also quite bad, as they didn't bowl straight enough. The fielding was also quite awful. Whenever he has crossed 50, he has been given quite a few chances, by drops, no-balls and dodgy decisions. Out of the 4 half-centuries he has made, 2 were made in easy conditions, and didn't matter much.

If Patel and Agarkar can get so many chances as batsmen, why not Pathan and Harbhajan? They have the big shots, and can bat a lot better than what their averages suggest. They can also find places in the team with another skill.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
SJS said:
Does any one also realise how many more wrong decisions (after the horrendous first test) have been prevented by btasmen walking. Instead of just criticising the batsmen for 'dissent' (amazing considering the batsman is the only one to lose), how cpome no one is discussing at the continuing bad umpiring.

Havent the batsmen in fact saved the umpires from some more criticism (at least from the aggrieved parties) since the action replayes would show most of these decisions to be wrong anyway ?


There was a time when walking was considered not just good ethics (what a strange alien word) but also as a big helping for the umpires. I have heard some of the top umpires complaining that both batsmen and fielders could help make the umpires' job easier by being 'honest' (such a dirty word ?) in close decisions .

Today when they walk, WE, the fans are criticising them for 'dissent' !!

So everything is justified in the name of 'respecting' authority ? But sledging, shouting at umpires, refusing to listen to them inspite of repeated requests to calm down/behave...these are instances of 'justifed aggro' ??

A strange attitude indeed.
Excellent post SJS. Just what I was going to post before seeing you had already done it.

It does boil down to the trust and respect that teams have for each other too. It would have made the Australians look silly if the Indians hadnt walked even at the risk of appearing to show dissent.

That said, the umpiring is a huge huge concern in this series. Atleast the players are covering for the umpires somewhat.:)
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Sehwag309 said:
Can happen...nothing unusual, not everybody is used to heat of southern India.

In addition, I think he is fasting too
Yup can happen to any one ....
Fasting month , yeah it has started ...
 

shaka

International Regular
thanks for the answer to it, fasting takes a lot out of you. What part of India is Kaif from?
 

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