**Official** Australia in India Thread

[biased indian]

oh i dont think anyone said that they didnt play well, they played well against the attack that they got, too many people came to the conclusion after that series that india was just about as good as australia(some said that they were better) and that they were the no 2 team in the world etc.
and india certainly didnt miss players off the quality of warne,gillespie,lehmann and mcgrath.

GILLESPIE can u pls say how was he missed by Australia

 

[Magrat Garlick]

GILLESPIE can u pls say how was he missed by Australia

When his replacement was the fearsome Nathan Bracken, whom even India wouldn't have touched with a bargepole?

 

[Swervy]

u see if they were hammered the they would have been out form the same way Bichel,Gillespie and lee where when india last toured

the way you are talking it would appear you have been fed a fair few bunches of those sour grapes that crop up on here from time to time.

The series isnt over yet....but I dont think there is any doubt who the better team has been this series..and I would be surprised if many Indian fans would argue against that one

 

[biased indian]

so you wont accept it just because there were some of us who thought Australia werent at full strength last year, and that may have contributed to India drawing the series (along with India playing well)...bit childish isnt it???

the same way the indian where not at full strength in any of the matches upto now and thats the reason australia is winning(along with Aus playing well)

 

[Swervy]

the same way the indian where not at full strength in any of the matches upto now and thats the reason australia is winning(along with Aus playing well)

right...

 

[tooextracool]

the same way the indian where not at full strength in any of the matches upto now and thats the reason australia is winning(along with Aus playing well)

if india were not full strength in either of the first 2 tests then neither were australia...... minus ponting.

 

[biased indian]

right...

 

[biased indian]

if india were not full strength in either of the first 2 tests then neither were australia...... minus ponting.

but india missed the most overated player ever didnt we????

 

[tooextracool]

but india missed the most overated player ever didnt we????

and that bares relevance to his argument how?
india missed tendulkar, australia missed ponting, if you ask me, its pretty even.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

and that bares relevance to his argument how?
india missed tendulkar, australia missed ponting, if you ask me, its pretty even.

Ah but India also missed Srinath, Kapil Dev and Bishen Bedi.

As far as I can see India and Australia put out pretty strong teams. The argument can only be that Ricky Ponting's replacement stepped up and Tendulkar's did not.

 

[JustTool]

oh yes, not long ago there were suggestions that india can play well everywhere in the world, now there are people blaming the groundsmen for creating pitches that dont suit them.

You must be as grumpy and unforgiving as the picture shows. Lighten up. Try a little Yoga or TM. These maybe be eastern techniques but might really work for you.
It's Ok for supporters of losing sides to look for excuses - especially when they are grounded in some basis.
I see a lot of people here prasing this BS walking crap that the Aussies have started doing sometimes. But, I never saw any one of you guys complain that Steve Waugh's over-the-top sledging and non-walking etc. was an issue. So you guys also support your sides blindly just like everyone else.

 

[marc71178]

u dont knew the excuse by now
we are missng our best two fast bowlers pathan and balaji

I'd say that fact that Balaji is one of your best 2 fast bowlers is the reason why you're not winning.

 

[marc71178]

so as far as u r concerned players form don't change

Says the person who says Warne wasn't missed because of his past record

 

[marc71178]

Also dont foeget that we missed harbhajan and zaheer

Harbhajan with his away record of 55 wickets @ 37.43?

 

[marc71178]

You do know never to end setntces with 'is' - you are English, after all, aren't you Are you rooting for Australia or are just happy that India might lose ?

No, just pointing out the facts as they stand.

India have next to no chance of winning the series from here.

 

[marc71178]

GILLESPIE can u pls say how was he missed by Australia

Because he's one of the top pacemen around?

And IMO about the most under-rated.

 

[tooextracool]

You must be as grumpy and unforgiving as the picture shows. Lighten up. Try a little Yoga or TM. These maybe be eastern techniques but might really work for you.

whether i am grumpy or not is frankly none of your business, this is a cricketing forum and im not going to talk about any sort of techniques that make anyone less grumpy.

It's Ok for supporters of losing sides to look for excuses - especially when they are grounded in some basis.
I see a lot of people here prasing this BS walking crap that the Aussies have started doing sometimes. But, I never saw any one of you guys complain that Steve Waugh's over-the-top sledging and non-walking etc. was an issue. So you guys also support your sides blindly just like everyone else.

the point that i made was that not very long ago there were people talking about how india had solved their problems outside the sub continent etc. and now when they lose on pitches that offer something for the quicker bowlers, they blame the groundsmen for it. if you cant win when you play on these sort of pitches then how exactly do you expect to win abroad?

 

[Mecnun]

Dravid looks out of sorts and I suspect that is really hurting India.. He holds the innings together but these last couple of tests he ha snot been firing... India will need him to perform with support from top order to avoid defeat in this test. Yet again I think Dravid is going to be the key man in India's second innings.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

What Adelaide Test are you talking about ? Are you making up stuff about Sutralian pitches turning. Go back and look at Dennis Lillee's (yes, Mr Lillee himself) record in Australia and overseas (e.g., in India) and it may shock you adn tell you about how picthes always do, and should, favor the home team.

Okay, evidently you did not read my post so I will re-iterate my point. It doesn't matter if Australian pitches turn or not with regards to how pitches are prepared in India. Local officials can prepare any kind of pitch they want provided that it meets basic standards and doesn't do the game a disservice. This does not mean that a groundsman is failing in his duties if he doesn't make a slow, dusty turner in India, but it does mean that he isn't cheating if he chooses to do so.

Now, on your other point, Australian pitches do often turn. Sydney is well known as a pitch that turns, and Melbourne and Adelaide can both come apart on the final days of a test and turn a great deal. The main difference between Australian pitches and subcontinent pitches is not that Australian pitches never turn but that they always have something in them for quick bowlers. I never denied this at any point and I don't think there is anything wrong with it either.

Regarding the Adelaide test, I got the bowler wrong but the pitch did in fact turn a great deal. You can disagree if you like, but I watched the match and the Australians struggled a great deal against sharp turn and uneven bounce from Kumble and even Tendulkar. And if Australian pitches have absolutely nothing in them for spinners, why has Australia produced several world class leg-spinners over the years, and why has it been standard practice for a long time to pick two quicks and two spinners for Sydney tests?

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Patel gone, 9 balls into the day.