**Official** Australia in India Thread

[JustTool]

Sehwag & Chopra gone. Damn. This could become a bloodbath soon.

 

[Bapu Rao Swami]

Gillespie bowling very well, swinging the ball.

Where do you guys rate Gillespie ? is he better than Harmy or not?

 

[reason4passion]

Gillespie bowling very well, swinging the ball.

Where do you guys rate Gillespie ? is he better than Harmy or not?

By the way its not Harmy .Its Harmison .. Nope Harmison is much much better than Gillespie .. More or less identical bowlers with almost the same weapons but why not select the one with a better pace and bounce .........
Harmison is the Best bowler for sure ......

 

[mavric41]

Gillespie bowling very well, swinging the ball.

Where do you guys rate Gillespie ? is he better than Harmy or not?

Gillespie has been doing it now for years. Harmison so far is a one season wonder. Let him put the runs on the board before saying he is better than Gillespie.

 

[Mr Casson]

Terrific catch from Gilly to dismiss Sehwag. Difference in keepers showing.

I've never had a problem with Gilchrist's keeping. I think it is talked up way too much. He's taken some of the best catches I've ever seen by a wicketkeeper.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

9-6-6-1. Classic McGrath figures. The Australians are bowling magnificently at the moment, it's a credit to Tendulkar and Dravid that they haven't got out yet.

 

[Jono]

I think if you go back and have a look at the posts you will find some that said Zaheer was a useless bowler.

Useless bowler? No. Bowling uselessly? Yes. Zaheer was bowling poorly in the first test, and the first innings of the second test. I, and most Indian fans, were not doubting his ability. He has recently been unfit, before that unmotivated and has simply bowled pies. The inclusion of Pathan and Balaji as the main front line bowlers must have sparked something, because he's obviously got the idea.

I think there is no doubt that he had been bowling pretty badly right from that fatefull first over in the world cup finals. This has continued in the tests.

His poor bowling has not affected India as much as it would have only because of the emergence of young Pathan, and the intermittent good spells by Nehra and fewer still by Agarkar.

Now , from the second test onwards, he is again bowling better and improving with every outing. Maybe he is reacting to the pressure realising he cant take his place for granted. (Isnt he in the B list for the contract). But whatever the reason, it is a fact that he is bowling better with a fire not seen lately.So whats wrong if those who saw him bowling badly said so then AND now that he is bowling better, are saying so too.

To keep criticising a player all the time or venerating him as the greatest (irrespective of performance) is not consistency , it is unadulterated bias and total lack of objectivity.

No SJS, you see, if an Indian fan acknowledges that a player has improved (or bowling better) after criticising him, he is therefore 'fickle'. Apparently once I suggest a bowler is bowling badly, I must say so for the rest of his career despite him possibly improving?

One really big partnership and one other solid partnership does not hide the fact that wickets fell regularily throughout the day. Three in the first session, then four in the third session falls under my definition of steady wickets. Any other team that loses 7 wickets in a day would not get anywhere near 360 runs. Let's not forget there were plenty of chances missed by India (Patel) too.

Lol!

Definition of regular:
Customary, usual, or normal: the train's regular schedule.
Orderly, even, or symmetrical: regular teeth.
In conformity with a fixed procedure, principle, or discipline.
Well-ordered; methodical: regular habits.
Occurring at fixed intervals; periodic: regular payments.

See that last one? Occurring at fixed intervals. When a team loses one wicket in a 2 hour session (after lunch), that therefore shows that a team did not lose wickets regularly. They lost them in clumps, with two big partnerships in between. That's not regularly. Australia's 1st innings in the second test was an example of a team losing wickets regularly (following the opening partnership).

And Patel's missed chances have no relevance. The players didn't lose regular wickets, maybe they should have, but they didn't.

Oh and I remember India scoring 300+ in Melbourne on day 1 of the 3rd test, and they lost 6 wickets.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Tendulkar plumb to Gillespie, 5th time he has got him.

 

[mavric41]

Tendulkar - GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JustTool]

Oh No ! Manjrekar is on with Tendulkar batting. He is starting to babble uncontrollably and insensibly....worse: Tendulkar out lbw - marginal decision according to Dean Jones. I don't think Nagpur deserves a Test Match. So much movement behind the sightscreen and so often plus an idiot groundsman

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I don't think it's particularly marginal. It pitched on off, hit him in front of middle and off and would have hit leg, if they aren't out not many LBW appeals will be.

And what's wrong with the Nagpur groundsman? It's not the perfect pitch for India admittedly, but actually if you consider that they lost Harbhajan and that Kumble does fairly well on bouncy wickets which don't turn all that much it wasn't too bad for them. Zaheer Khan certainly bowled very well on it.

 

[JustTool]

Indians having real trouble with lbws on balls seaming in...what makes it worse is listening to Manjrekar continuing to babble on about how great Tendulkar and even Laxman is....Tolded you, this could become a bloodbath !

 

[marc71178]

I know Hodge is there, but Watto is far better suited to number 7.

But it's not replacing a number 7?

 

[JustTool]

I don't think it's particularly marginal. It pitched on off, hit him in front of middle and off and would have hit leg, if they aren't out not many LBW appeals will be.

And what's wrong with the Nagpur groundsman? It's not the perfect pitch for India admittedly, but actually if you consider that they lost Harbhajan and that Kumble does fairly well on bouncy wickets which don't turn all that much it wasn't too bad for them. Zaheer Khan certainly bowled very well on it.

I can see your point of view. When was the last time an Australian groundsman pepared a turning track for a Test with India ?
I don't know which God has mandated that fast, bouncy pitches are the standard by which picthes should be judged. Maybe the standard should be turning tarcks and to prepare fast, bouncy pitches would be 'cheating' ? You see, it's all a matter of pespective. In fact Test matches are always more interesting on turning tracks and alomst always provide a result.

 

[marc71178]

I don't think Nagpur deserves a Test Match. So much movement behind the sightscreen and so often plus an idiot groundsman

And the excuses continue to roll in...

 

[JustTool]

And the excuses continue to roll in...

Just repeating exactly what Dean Jones (an Aussie) said (almost verbatim) on the TV. Does that make you feel better ?

 

[Arjun]

The Australians bowled very well, giving little away. What on earth was Zaheer doing? Why bowl a loosener every two overs?

 

[Sehwag309]

Tendulkar plumb to Gillespie, 5th time he has got him.

As per cricinfo...sure

It was a bit high, considering aleem didnt give the chopra one, this was one was a bit shocking

I am not complaining, just writing what I felt

 

[JustTool]

The Australians bowled very well, giving little away. What on earth was Zaheer doing? Why bowl a loosener every two overs?

You mean Agarkar. Zaheer bowled quite well. Agarkar was bowling looseners with a couple of real balls every 2 or 3 overs...

 

[Swervy]

I can see your point of view. When was the last time an Australian groundsman pepared a turning track for a Test with India ?
I don't know which God has mandated that fast, bouncy pitches are the standard by which picthes should be judged. Maybe the standard should be turning tarcks and to prepare fast, bouncy pitches would be 'cheating' ? You see, it's all a matter of pespective. In fact Test matches are always more interesting on turning tracks and alomst always provide a result.

maybe interesting for the Indian fans..coz India will tend to win those contests.

Maybe India need to learn how to play on a variety of wickets..if they did that then MAYBE they would have a legitimate shot of at least the number two slot in the world...I think number one is a step to far for this Indian team