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***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
simmy said:
Yeah you get outplayed two tests in a row... but only lose one... Yeah thats even!!!!!!!
Oh god. Sour grapes much? Australia could obviously have easily won the Edgbaston test, given they lost it by all of two runs. This one England dominated for four days, but couldn't make the runs fast enough to give themselves enough time to bowl Australia out as well having a big enough total, and a brilliant innings from Ponting held them out. In case you didn't realise, saving matches is actually part of test cricket.
 

matty1818

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Scaly piscine said:
If England played on a seamer's wicket do you think Harmison would be okay to bowl 26 wicketless overs without ever really looking like getting anyone out?
Different situation, Giles hasn't been in the team to take wickets, you cant compare him to Shane Warne, hes not a strike bowler, hes there to tie up an end, imagine if Harmison and Hoggy had bowled his overs and Australia had gone at 4 an over an won the match, youd be singing a different story then 'oh why didnt we play gilo to hold the run rate down.'

If you want to blame anyone blame vaughan, giles just gets tossed the ball and bowls moderate offspin against right handers and one of the best batsmen in the world determined to stay in indefinately, pretty hard.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Shane Warne said:
Australia should have won at Edgbaston but for Kaspa getting a rough decision.
especially considering that he should have been out a long time before that anyways

Shane Warne said:
If Martyn hadn't been wrongfully given out here then who knows if they had been able to chase it down even
and if brett lee had been given out lbw to that harmison ball australia would for all intents and purposes have lost.
 

simmy

International Regular
Demolition Man said:
The right result prevailed, dispute it all you want, yes we were outplayed most of the match and it took something special to change the course of the match. Do not deny punters brilliant innings.
He batted superbly. But one good performance by one man does not make it the "right result". The fact is, is that ALL the other batsmen, Clarke included looked average out there today. God only knows what Katich and Gilchrist were up to!

One performance does not equal the many English performances we have seen this test.

I hope that the "Best team in the world" are very embarassed with their performances to date on this tour. All the chat about whitewashes and other rubbish.

Australia will not win this series. Mark my words. England are still favourites for the series too because they have bowled, batted and fielded better than Australia. :cool:
 
The Aussie view on Talksport radio says that he thinks they will stick with Gillespie due to them saving the game and take the same side into the next match.

I don't think he's supposed to be a cricket person but still, how ridiculous.

You don't think there's a chance they will actually do this do you? :blink:
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
oh my god....... great game. Well played england, but well played australia, that final day performance really sets the tone for the rest of the series. To score close to 400 on a 5th day pitch. Brilliant. And ponting truly showed his class today. When the going gets tough the tough get going.

Overall this kind of exciting cricket is going to draw more people to play and watch cricket and that can only be good for the game
 
simmy said:
I hope that the "Best team in the world" are very embarassed with their performances to date on this tour. All the chat about whitewashes and other rubbish. :
Yeah, the Lords test match and the final game of the Natwest challenge were terrible performances.
 

simmy

International Regular
FaaipDeOiad said:
Oh god. Sour grapes much? Australia could obviously have easily won the Edgbaston test, given they lost it by all of two runs. This one England dominated for four days, but couldn't make the runs fast enough to give themselves enough time to bowl Australia out as well having a big enough total, and a brilliant innings from Ponting held them out. In case you didn't realise, saving matches is actually part of test cricket.
Given. But I can say that my grapes are very sour and that if it hadnt of rained, I would be gloating very proudly right now.

You cannot tell me that England did not deserve to win that, considering the rain.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Shane Warne said:
The Aussie view on Talksport radio says that he thinks they will stick with Gillespie due to them saving the game and take the same side into the next match.

I don't think he's supposed to be a cricket person but still, how ridiculous.

You don't think there's a chance they will actually do this do you? :blink:
No. The Australian team for the next test will have once change, which is Kasprowicz coming in for Gillespie. Hodge may come in for Clarke, depending on the injury situation, but I doubt it. I also think that Kasprowicz will definately get the nod ahead of Tait, and that Hayden will retain his place until the finish of the series.

England will be unchanged.
 
simmy said:
Given. But I can say that my grapes are very sour and that if it hadnt of rained, I would be gloating very proudly right now. .
If Kaspa hadn't been wrongfully given out I would be gloating very proudly right now.
 

matty1818

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Shane Warne said:
Yeah, the Lords test match and the final game of the Natwest challenge were terrible performances.
lol natwest challenge ... reaching!

Hey we peppered you in the 20-20 we're better.

p.s. no but really we are better, if we don't win this ashes, walkabout won't get my money till we get them in Australia. ;)
 

simmy

International Regular
Shane Warne said:
If Kaspa hadn't been wrongfully given out I would be gloating very proudly right now.
If Bell and Pietersen hadnt have been given out... with equally both horrendous decisions then you would not have been gloating because you could have been chasing another 100.
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
matty1818 said:
lol natwest challenge ... reaching!

Hey we peppered you in the 20-20 we're better.

p.s. no but really we are better, if we don't win this ashes, walkabout won't get my money till we get them in Australia. ;)
haha england win the ashes in australia..... Nah mate that aint going to happen, anytime soon
 

simmy

International Regular
matty1818 said:
lol natwest challenge ... reaching!

Hey we peppered you in the 20-20 we're better.

p.s. no but really we are better, if we don't win this ashes, walkabout won't get my money till we get them in Australia. ;)
England are playing so much better, that I almost, I cant believe I am saying this, feel sorry for Australia!
 
matty1818 said:
lol natwest challenge ... reaching!

Hey we peppered you in the 20-20 we're better.

p.s. no but really we are better, if we don't win this ashes, walkabout won't get my money till we get them in Australia. ;)
Not reaching, he said the performances to date on the tour.

Those two were examples of performances to date on the tour.

Both were also more meaningful than the 20-20 game.

And yeah, you're better. I liked your last performance in Sri Lanka.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
simmy said:
Given. But I can say that my grapes are very sour and that if it hadnt of rained, I would be gloating very proudly right now.

You cannot tell me that England did not deserve to win that, considering the rain.
England were the better team for four days, as I said. If you can't bowl a team out in 108 overs on a 5th day pitch with a target of 420 though, it's hard to say you really deserve to win the match. It's not like the rain came down and washed away England's chance of bowling Australia out... they had ample opportunity to win the game based on the declaration they made.

England were better overall, but a draw was a fair sort of a result in the end. And, given the way this series has progressed so far, I think 1-1 is pretty good, although Australia have a little more to be happy about than England. Each team has generally dominated one test, with one closer one, but England didn't win the one they really dominated.

The big gap between the sides so far has been the application from Australia's batsmen, and the form and confidence from this performance plus the likelyhood of less reverse swing at Trent Bridge might help to fix that a bit. Either way, I'm looking forward to the next test as much as I've ever looked forward to a match.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Demolition Man said:
Ponting has to be MOM, or as SBS call it player of the test.
quite an extraordinary effort that, easily the best innings hes ever played at the test match level. you could see from the grit and determination very early on in his innings though that this was going to be a big one and at the end of the day he almost single handedly saved australia from defeat. that inning was not just important on the basis of the result, but also to make up for his abysmal captaincy during this series, australia really needed him to lead from the front today. well done against some truly brilliant spells of fast bowling that he had to endure.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
matty1818 said:
Different situation, Giles hasn't been in the team to take wickets, you cant compare him to Shane Warne, hes not a strike bowler, hes there to tie up an end, imagine if Harmison and Hoggy had bowled his overs and Australia had gone at 4 an over an won the match, youd be singing a different story then 'oh why didnt we play gilo to hold the run rate down.'

If you want to blame anyone blame vaughan, giles just gets tossed the ball and bowls moderate offspin against right handers and one of the best batsmen in the world determined to stay in indefinately, pretty hard.
Whenever the lefties came on strike he gave them a rubbish delivery to get off strike anyway. Also where do I compare him with Shane Warne? Giles is a finger spinner who had plenty of assistance and didn't do anything with it, I *would* rather have seen Hoggard or Harmison bowl his overs - they couldn't have taken any less wickets could they?

Also Hoggard can keep it well outside off-stump if we're desperate to cut the run rate - Giles' economy rate of 3.62 in this series doesn't exactly cut the flow of runs.
 

simmy

International Regular
King_Ponting said:
haha england win the ashes in australia..... Nah mate that aint going to happen, anytime soon
Can you post your address so that I can come round and beat some sense into you!

Aus are overrated... England are rampant... there is only going to be one winner. (That is England by the way :p )
 

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