***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

[aussie]

Question for everybody: just suppose Warne had got injured instead of McGrath - would Australia have been worse off without him than they are without McGarth?

Hmmmmmmm this is a tough one,i reckon the result could have been slighty different because the attack would have been McGrath/Lee/Dizzy/Maccgill & seein the improvement in Dizzy in this match, Lee's poor 1st innings bowling performace may not have hurt so much because McGrath at the other end would have kept England quiet & Macgill could have gotten wickets but very expensively i reckon....

 

[marc71178]

Warne, oh Oh Oh Oh
Shane Warne, oh Oh Oh Oh
He Isn't A South African
He Hit Wheelie Bin Giles for 6.

England 407 & 182 beat Australia 308 & 279 by two runs

 

[marc71178]

Nah, blame the umpire, because his glove as off the bat.

Priceless.

You cannot accept it can you?

 

[marc71178]

It was no more plumb then the one simon jones got..

By saying that you've now removed any right to grumble about the hand being on the bat for the 10th wicket.

 

[King_Ponting]

By saying that you've now removed any right to grumble about the hand being on the bat for the 10th wicket.

Never did, fair game too. i would have given kaspa out as well. Well both times

 

[Shane Warne]

Priceless.

You cannot accept it can you?

I can't accept bad decisions altering the course of a match, no.

 

[luckyeddie]

What an absolutely disgraceful performance from England's bowlers to just assume that the match was in the bag and almost throw it away in doing so. Rather than celebrating they should be ashamed of themselves and have a good hard look at why the match got so close.

I don't really think they assumed anything of the sort - they would have learned that any early self-congratulation against Australia is dangerous from Lord's surely?

All right, let's assume they didn't, and they got lucky. What changes are you going to make for Old Trafford?

 

[luckyeddie]

I can't accept bad decisions altering the course of a match, no.

Why don't you come out and say what you really think instead of hiding behind subtlety and innuendo?

 

[King_Ponting]

I can't accept bad decisions altering the course of a match, no.

Mate u become an umpire. Cut them some slack

 

[Anil]

must rank as one of the greatest test matches of all time....and also showed australia's fighting qualities....i would say although the loss must have been heart-breaking the rearguard action by the aussie tail would have given them heart and ensured that there is not a huge momentum swing in favour of england....

 

[Shane Warne]

Mate u become an umpire. Cut them some slack

I will when I don't notice a significant trend in which way they give the benifit of the doubt.

 

[marc71178]

Never did, fair game too. i would have given kaspa out as well. Well both times

My deepest apologies - I misread you as Shane Warne whinging about the dismissal after the turned down LBW.

 

[matty1818]

I will when I don't notice a significant trend in which way they give the benifit of the doubt.

so bell and pietersen, two batsmen, both in, got given out when they weren't. You think if they hadn't gone youd even be looking at a run chase today?

 

[Hanuma]

anybody else here a little bit ****ed off with some inept fast bowling from harmy and freddy here?

i thought giles did excellently...he turned the ball nicely on the dusty pitch too.

 

[Shane Warne]

so bell and pietersen, two batsmen, both in, got given out when they weren't. You think if they hadn't gone youd even be looking at a run chase today?

Pietersen should have been given out first ball. He himself knew it by his face. So England were lucky to go on to get 20 extra runs.

Bell's was out. The bat moved on impact. Most people thought it was out and that there was a problem with Snicko because it didn't even react to any pad either.

 

[Hanuma]

thats all nonsense...neither were out.

 

[Shane Warne]

thats all nonsense...neither were out.

Both were.

 

[matty1818]

Pietersen should have been given out first ball. He himself knew it by his face. So England were lucky to go on to get 20 extra runs.

Bell's was out. The bat moved on impact. Most people thought it was out and that there was a problem with Snicko because it didn't even react to any pad either.

I thought we were giving the batsmen the benefit of the doubt...'snicko wasnt working' surely there is doubt there. And plenty of players should be given out but aren't. I thought we were discussing unfair dismissals...

 

[matty1818]

your complaining of umpire biase. But if those two situations were aussie batsmen would you have given them out. Would you accept the answer 'most people thought snicko wasn't working.'?

 

[Hanuma]

they werent out...the pressure of shane warne was too much for the weak koertzen.