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***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
FaaipDeOiad said:
Why does Australia need 5 bowlers? That's like saying Australia needs reverse swing to win, or any of the other things Australia has never needed in the past. Australia hasn't had a world class all-rounder since the Davidson and Benaud days in the 50s and 60s, and even then they often only picked 4 bowlers. Even when they didn't have a reliable spinner, Australia played 4 quicks. All through the 90s with Warne, Australia supported him with 3 quicks. Why is it that just because England have Flintoff Australia suddenly desperately need a 5th bowler?

Having Clarke able to bowl would be handy, but really it doesn't matter. If McGrath, Warne and Kasprowicz play as well as they did all of last year and Lee plays like he has this series and Australia hold most of their catches, Australia will do well with the ball anyway. Having a fifth bowler would have helped with hiding Gillespie, but it's not a necessity, which is why Australia has done it about 3 times in the last decade while dominating more comprehensively than any team ever has before.

The real problem is batting, right now. If Australia bat first and make a big score, the rest will sort itself out as it usually does when you have two all-time greats in the team.
No not a fifth bowler but a batsmen that can bowl half-decently
ie, Mark Waugh

FWIW I agree bowling is not the problem (as I have already mentioned) , our batsmen are to blame but Dizzy has been seen as somewhat of a public scapegoat.
Demolition Man said:
I think we all must keep in mind that it has not been our bowling that has us under the pump in this series , it has been our batsmen. We carried dizzy gillespie, we can carry another bowler either kasper or tait, it is our batsmen who need to lift.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Demolition Man said:
FWIW Kasper was destroyed in the last innings he bowled to the poms.
And could that have not been a victim of circumstance?

He came onto bowl to Flintoff when the last pair were together, and Flintoff was in "hit anything" mode.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Demolition Man said:
Every time I think we should 'play it safe' and go with Kasper, I see this picture in my head and think 1 down 11 more English(including 2 south africans, 1 welshman and a PNGuineanian to go. :D


:lol:
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
I`ve changed my mind, and I want Kasper to play. McGrath, Lee, Kasper, Warne.

If Tait plays, good luck, but I want Michael!
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Demolition Man said:
FWIW Kasper was destroyed in the last innings he bowled to the poms.
He only bowled 3 overs in that innings so he didn't get much of an opportunity. At the same time Brett Lee was also getting murdered, so that's a bit harsh.
 

howardj

International Coach
Mister Wright said:
He removed the well settled Trescothick, removed Bell early and found pace and bounce to remove Jones. With playing both Tait and Lee you are playing impact bowlers and don't really have the extra bowler to bowl long spells, which means McGrath & Warne have to bowl a lot more overs than usual which could nulify their effect. Australia lacks the opportunity to have an allrounder fill in with overs, and especially now that Clarke will probably never bowl again if we are struggling to take wickets, I'd rather have Kasprowicz bounding in then Katich - and I know who the England batsman would rather face.
Top post!
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I would play Kaspa simply because he can be relied upon, we saw in the last test that ponting just could not turn too Gillespie ans i could see the same thing happen with tate so it is very likely they will go for kasprowitz
 

tassietiger

U19 Debutant
Either way I'm pretty happy. Kasper is a gun, he's unlucky every game he misses. Tait's a bowler of the future, it's only a matter of when for him. (And I love seeing his action). Still hoping Dizzy gets back some time, I really hope he can end his career on his own terms and not a selector's.
 

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
tassietiger said:
Either way I'm pretty happy. Kasper is a gun, he's unlucky every game he misses. Tait's a bowler of the future, it's only a matter of when for him. (And I love seeing his action). Still hoping Dizzy gets back some time, I really hope he can end his career on his own terms and not a selector's.
Well atm his careear is over, it is up to him to produce his best to get back into the side.
 

Monty

U19 Cricketer
Pedro Delgado said:
Ahh I see, it's a "the team I would pick" eleven.
Well I'd have Symonds in mine if I was that way inclined.
mate you can call up layer playing in the county league
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Demolition Man said:
Two brissie boys pumping kasper up ??? Noooo
We may be from Qld, but we are both HUGE fans of Tait. If this were a Tait over Lee decision, it would be a different story. However, it isn't. While I'd love to see Tait play, he is a player of the future and the series is in the balance, and there are too many unkowns with Tait at this level to chuck him in their and the balance of the team has to be considered.
 

Burpey

Cricketer Of The Year
Mister Wright said:
We may be from Qld, but we are both HUGE fans of Tait. If this were a Tait over Lee decision, it would be a different story. However, it isn't. While I'd love to see Tait play, he is a player of the future and the series is in the balance, and there are too many unkowns with Tait at this level to chuck him in their and the balance of the team has to be considered.
Well said skipper
 

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
That will teach JL for his comments, LMAO

Tait full of fire, menace
By Adam Cooper in Nottingham
August 23, 2005

SOUTH Australian pace bowler Shaun Tait is poised to make his Test debut in the fourth Ashes Test against England at Trent Bridge, which starts on Thursday.

Lithe ... Shaun Tait loosens up to bowl. Pic: Reuters
Tait is understood to be ready to replace Redbacks team-mate Jason Gillespie in the side after training superbly in Australia's first session in Nottingham.

Tait, 22, impressed chairman of selectors Trevor Hohns with his pace and aggression, which was highlighted by a spell to opener Justin Langer in the nets.

Tait bowled the left-hander and fetched him a painful blow in the groin in what was a hostile spell.


More to come

AAP
 

PY

International Coach
It looked a proper solid blow on the 1 o'clock news too.

Langer looked peeved as if it was a dodgy delivery but only saw it strike him, will do wonders for team spirit. :D
 

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
PY said:
It looked a proper solid blow on the 1 o'clock news too.

Langer looked peeved as if it was a dodgy delivery but only saw it strike him, will do wonders for team spirit. :D

Well you bowling to a guy who has just said you should not play and you are trying to impress the selectors, I think it is fair enough, besdies A.L. absolutly loves the rough stuff.
 

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend

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