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They were analyzing Hales; if cricket doesn't work for him, he can try his bat in baseball
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***Official*** Australia in England 2018
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Mr Miyagi
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England won't have Stokes and Woakes, so India is in with a chance of winning. Should be a better contest, though.
Mr Miyagi
Banned
Which England top 3?
Bairstow,
Roy,
Root when Stokes is fit,
Or the current
Roy,
Bairstow,
Hales?
I think on career establishment, India with Nohit, Shikar and Virat are bigger names, but Bairstow is flying under the radar with a massively impressive career start, and Root is also not getting the ODI attention he deserves for since his games at 3.
Roy and Hales are just sloggers who hit or miss and play to a team role that makes them much more effective winning players than they would be based on their talent alone. Excellent team men. And this is made possible by the likes of Woakes when fit at 8 with a bunch of high SR hitters who care little for their averages. Collapses are to be expected, and they bat deep in part to mitigate the damage when it happens, but also just to keep throwing the bat for 50 overs.
Every time you hear Morgan speak, all they're primarily focused on is strike rate (besides Root).
www.espncricinfo.com/series/18021/commentary/1119539/england-vs-australia-3rd-odi-aus-eng-2018
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Indeed.
weldone
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India's top 3 is better, India's bowling is better, but England's bottom 8 batting is better.
quincywagstaff
International Debutant
Smart move in hindsight by Cricket Australia to have all of Australia's home ODIs only on Pay-TV.
quincywagstaff
International Debutant
Australia have won only 1 of their last 16 away ODIs; if there's a theme in those losses it isn't so much that opposition sides are scoring so many it's that Australia's batting just isn't capable of that. They've gone from being the most destructive batting lineup to one of the most timid in just a couple of years.
And fwiw, don't think Steve Smith is a solution to those problems; he was never a particularly fast ODI scorer even in peak form and he'd been rather stodgy in the past 18 months or so. I don't think someone with a career strike rate as Smith has would make it into the current England batting lineup.
And fwiw, don't think Steve Smith is a solution to those problems; he was never a particularly fast ODI scorer even in peak form and he'd been rather stodgy in the past 18 months or so. I don't think someone with a career strike rate as Smith has would make it into the current England batting lineup.
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I watched about 35 overs of the England innings and can't recall a ball doing anything
Having said that (and yes I know that we're seriously under-manned), the lack of variety in our attack is a recipe for disaster
We need to hope like hell that at least one of Starc, Behrendorff or Paris are available for the WC and that Faulkner gets his head/knee together
We're also sorely missing a wrist spinner as Agar's darts are ineffective on these tracks
He's a good cricketer but should not be the first & only spin option in these conditions
In terms of the batting, the order remains a mystery to me and I'll just have to put it down to player development or <insert CA bs> here
Having said that (and yes I know that we're seriously under-manned), the lack of variety in our attack is a recipe for disaster
We need to hope like hell that at least one of Starc, Behrendorff or Paris are available for the WC and that Faulkner gets his head/knee together
We're also sorely missing a wrist spinner as Agar's darts are ineffective on these tracks
He's a good cricketer but should not be the first & only spin option in these conditions
In terms of the batting, the order remains a mystery to me and I'll just have to put it down to player development or <insert CA bs> here
Mr Miyagi
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England ODI pitches are deliberately as a matter of policy doing less and less and they use a white Kookaburra ball. Don't expect their games in the World Cup to be any different. The best plan of attack is actually to go after their bowlers in my opinion. That is how India beat them. That is how NZ pushed them to a 5th match decider. That is how Scotland upset them. But so many teams like quincy said are just too timid, even more so when batting first. Batsmen have to stop thinking 280 or even 300 is enough versus England. It is typically not. They have built their team to score 325 plus and not bowl sides out with tricks, but scoreboard pressure if anything at all. So that is how opposition batsmen need to think playing them.
The question will be what England serves up for the rest of the teams in the competition. Will they be consistent, or will they let some upsets happen with some pitches that do things that let Pakistan's seamers and Afghanistan's spinners cause some big upsets.
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quincywagstaff
International Debutant
On the plus side, this series which has been largely ignored until now in the Oz media is now dominating the headlines of the major news websites and even being the first thing discussed on a local sports radio station. Go Australia!
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