**Official** Australia in Bangladesh

[Ikki]

I think Warne has a case, maybe not so much that the Bangladesh AREN'T enough competition, but that the season is filled up with too many games.

 

[Jono]

LOL. If it was Murali, I know a handful of people who would quickly reply..."Can't you see he's injured, what a travesty! A great sportsman in pain, giving his all, and still mocked."

Sorry to make it seem so demeaning, but it actually does happen.

He'd also be getting wickets though.

 

[vic_orthdox]

He'd also be getting wickets though.

He's also not playing.

....seriously guys, really toeing the line here.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Just close it until they shutup about it.

 

[C_C]

I think Warne has a case, maybe not so much that the Bangladesh AREN'T enough competition, but that the season is filled up with too many games.

Tiredness ? oh do better !
Warne, like most of the aussie playing XI, seriously underestimated the Bangladeshis and as a result, got clobbered.

 

[Jono]

He's also not playing.

....seriously guys, really toeing the line here.

Lol, apologies I was on the previous page and just clicked the quote button.

 

[Sanz]

I suppose you think Richie Benaud and Geoff Boycott should give up their careers as pundits as well, since they said the same thing at the same time? How about, say, everyone else who said it?.

Well, Richie Benaud and Geoff Boycott are retired and they are not going to play cricket against Bangladesh. Warne is still playing, he should have shown little more respect for BD.

In reality, Bangaldesh were a woefully poor team for almost 5 years. Since around the time Whatmore took over they have been gradually improving, and in the last 12 months they have been consistently competitive, but there's nothing at all wrong with suggesting that before that they weren't good enough to play test cricket, because they weren't.

Ironically Warnie didn't say this when Bangladesh were poor, he said this after they started improving. Warnie insulted Bangladesh and thank god Cricket gods were listening.

 

[Jono]

I suppose you think Richie Benaud and Geoff Boycott should give up their careers as pundits as well, since they said the same thing at the same time? How about, say, everyone else who said it?

In reality, Bangaldesh were a woefully poor team for almost 5 years. Since around the time Whatmore took over they have been gradually improving, and in the last 12 months they have been consistently competitive, but there's nothing at all wrong with suggesting that before that they weren't good enough to play test cricket, because they weren't.

I know you're only in here to make fun of Warne, and I'm sure everyone expected it, but at least stick to his bowling figures.

Okay, first I'd like to point out my following post doesn't have anything to do with Murali.

But I'm sorry, when Warne comes out with comments like:
"The worst aspect is that I cannot see any light on the horizon for Bangladesh," Warne wrote. "I have not seen anything to suggest that they might be even a moderate team in the years ahead."

He deserves every bit of mocking one can dish out considering how badly he's been smashed in this match. You simply cannot defend him.

And you want to know the difference between him and Richie Benaud or Kim Hughes? They're still not playing, whilst Warne is, and shouldn't be making idiotic comments like that.

I wait for your next defence of him, simply for being Warne.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Are you guys just flat out ignoring the mods for fun or what? This is 100% annoying the hell out of everyone.

 

[Jono]

Well, Richie Benaud and Geoff Boycott are retired and they are not going to play cricket against Bangladesh. Warne is still playing, he should have shown little more respect for BD.

Beat me to the punch it seems!

That's the main point, and you can't really defend Warne's comments, particularly when he gets belted around the park by the same opposition he disrespected.

 

[Jono]

Are you guys just flat out ignoring the mods for fun or what? This is 100% annoying the hell out of everyone.

Ths has nothing to do with Warne vs. Murali though. It has to do with Bangladesh's test status.

 

[Sanz]

Are you guys just flat out ignoring the mods for fun or what? This is 100% annoying the hell out of everyone.

Well, as long as we can keep Murali out of this thread, it should be okay. Bangladeshi fans have all the rights to quote Shane Warne and every other guy who has made fun of their cricket in last few months.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Tiredness ? oh do better !
Warne, like most of the aussie playing XI, seriously underestimated the Bangladeshis and as a result, got clobbered.

Take note: it is possible to mention that something may be a contributing factor, without it being an excuse for the performance as a whole. Australia are coming off a ridiculously long summer of cricket, and a 5-0 win over South Africa. They've arrived off about 4 days rest in foreign conditions in another part of the world and walked straight into a test series against a side that are playing better than all reasonable predictions. Yes, Australia underestimated them, but one of the reasons that happened is that the tour was scheduled as a warm-down after a big period of cricket in the lead-up to the Ashes next summer, rather than a proper test series. Had there been two weeks rest instead of a couple of days, and perhaps a tour match, you likely would have seen a fresher and more motivated Australian team on the first morning, and it's less likely that Bangladesh would have gotten away to a flier.

Mentioning that Australia looked flat and tired on the first day and that their two key bowled have been run into the ground in the last six months is not an excuse, it's just part of the reason Australia began the test so badly.

 

[James]

Anymore Warne v Murali crap in this thread will result in official warnings being handed out and if ignored it will result in bans.

This is the Australia in Bangladesh thread!

 

[Sanz]

Take note: it is possible to mention that something may be a contributing factor, without it being an excuse for the performance as a whole. Australia are coming off a ridiculously long summer of cricket, and a 5-0 win over South Africa. They've arrived off about 4 days rest in foreign conditions in another part of the world and walked straight into a test series against a side that are playing better than all reasonable predictions. Yes, Australia underestimated them, but one of the reasons that happened is that the tour was scheduled as a warm-down after a big period of cricket in the lead-up to the Ashes next summer, rather than a proper test series. Had there been two weeks rest instead of a couple of days, and perhaps a tour match, you likely would have seen a fresher and more motivated Australian team on the first morning, and it's less likely that Bangladesh would have gotten away to a flier.

Mentioning that Australia looked flat and tired on the first day and that their two key bowled have been run into the ground in the last six months is not an excuse, it's just part of the reason Australia began the test so badly.

Excuses Galore.

 

[Jono]

Its more the fact that 2 weeks ago it would have been claimed that Australia A would have beaten Bangladesh with their eyes closed that makes the fatigue argument silly. In fact its been claimed Australia A would be one of the 4 best test nations in the world, forget just beating the Banglas.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Its more the fact that 2 weeks ago it would have been claimed that Australia A would have beaten Bangladesh with their eyes closed that makes the fatigue argument silly. In fact its been claimed Australia A would be one of the 4 best test nations in the world, forget just beating the Banglas.

Err...

Relevance?

Point to one point in this entire thread where someone (excluding, perhaps, aussie) has said that Bangaldesh hasn't played well, or that Australia didn't underestimate them? The point is that Australia's preperation for the series was poor, nothing more and nothing less.

Bangladesh's performance has been remarkably good, but Australia shouldn't be touring without any decent rest or a tour match, at the end of a long summer, especially not in such different conditions. It's absurd, and the team is never going to perform at their best under such circumstances.

 

[Jono]

Relevance? From when did you have to be fully fit to beat Bangladesh? That's been the thoughts anyway hasn't it? Why all of a sudden now do you have to be completely rested? Plus, MacGill, Gillespie, Clark and Clarke shouldn't be tired.

Firstly, I think when you look at the cricket India has had to play in the past 3-4 months non-stop (vs. SL 7 ODIs and 3 tests, vs. Pak 3 tests (on the flattest tracks man has ever seen for 2 of them) and 5 ODIs, vs. Eng 3 tests and so far 4 ODIs) I think its fair to say that they'd be pretty damn fatigued too. I'm sure a lot of teams have had to go through it on various tours. SA didn't look at all with it by the end of the VB Series, seeing as half their players just fell apart.

The difference between India and Australia at the moment is that India have played in similar conditions generally and haven't had to travel as much. Whoever organised Australia not playing ANY practice matches are idiots, and were obviously incredibly arrogant to not do so.

 

[Sanz]

Well Can't blame the authorities when the players themselves are so arrogant about the tour, can we ? Its Time to bum the 'Is Warne going to make century against Bangladesh' thread.

 

[Jono]

The authorities were probably out all night drinking with Symo and just forgot to book practice matches.