**Official** 4th Test at Melbourne, 26-30 Dec 2024

[Betterpolo]

Just catching up with all this now, seems that except for a few blips in the first and last sessions it's been a great day for India?

 

[honestbharani]

160/5 is not a million miles from when Aus lost their 5th, think 240 odd? So if we apply ourselves and bat properly and give up on the stupid singles, we may well drag ourselves to 350-400, but what a waste of wickets today. Rohit, Jaiswal, Virat all gifted.

I am usually the last person to say these type of things but really we are at a stage where Rohit and Virat are net negatives to the side. Virat is just mentally shot right now, between the shoulder graze, the lack of focus in running between the wickets and that lapse in concentration. I know they think they are building something for the ODIs with the CT but ideally, this series should be the end of both of them as Indian cricketers. We wont make the WTC finals, so might as well start rebuilding with this line up in England for the tests.

Jaiswal
Rahul
Sai Sudarshan
Gill
Pant (wk) (vc)
NKR
Jaddu
Washy
Akashdeep
Bumrah (c)
3rd seamer (Rana/Prasidh/Siraj/whoever is in form)

 

[honestbharani]

I hope it gets stamped out soon. **** part of the game

Yeah, umpires should not let players touch the stumps outside the time when there is a need to, IMO.

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

Indian fans still going on about blows to their WTC hopes after the shambles against the Kiwis at home and the ED on full display here. For shame mfers.

 

[debraj72]

Rajat patider should be included in the post-roko team

 

[Betterpolo]

Lmao the poor sods who can only follow via cricinfo are going to get a very nasty surprise soon

I was following cricinfo while feeding the dogs and making my morning coffee, then turned the TV on and stared between the two for a couple of minutes. Checked the BBC app, they don't even have it as a game today but had the score right once I tracked it down. All a bit much after a few days of Guinness and port.

 

[Starfighter]

It's a pretty flat deck but Jadeja and Sundar were getting a little out of it, I definitely expected more out of Lyon.

I remember bambino arguing India had the wood of certain Australian bowlers, the last two Tests proved it wrong for the quicks but I worry there might be some truth for Lyon? Granted it's still early days and I really don't think anyone else would do better.

His control of length is really poor so far. Don't expect him to get loads out of his deck but he's dropped short two times an over

His action's gradually deteriorated over the past couple of years, especially seeming to lose something after injury layoffs. When he took those wickets in the Sheffield Shield match at the start of the season despite bowling well it looked like a shadow of the bowler who's taken 500 test wickets.

 

[ataraxia]

It makes me wonder what the actual coaching guide is that this seems so debatable because "in front of the stumps is always the striker's call" was one of the first things I was taught as a kid

There definitely is room for the other batter to quickly shut down a call for a single.

Except when it's ****ing mid-on. Not only does the striker normally have to put their skates on immediately, but they are in the best position by far to judge looking straight back as opposed to the non-striker who has to turn. Quick singles to mid-off and mid-on are low-percentage plays IMO; they take up a disproportionate amount of run outs compared to their value. But in no way shape or form does the non-striker have any control over this.

 

[ataraxia]

Very funny if Kohli's idiocy is the result of PTSD from this:

 

[Spikey]

there's a grey area (imo) for stuff around point/gully because typically the striker has the better angle of the ball/fielder but the non-striker is running to the danger end.

there is not any grey area with mid-on

 

[Silver Silva]

I guess Kohli has to 'shoulder' the responsibility of this collapse heh.

 

[subshakerz]

Silly dismissal aside, I'm really impressed by Jaiswal and India's ability to keep churning out potential great bats just as their old greats are going into the sunset. Jaiswal plays with confidence ahead of his years.

 

[Betterpolo]

there's a grey area (imo) for stuff around point/gully because typically the striker has the better angle of the ball/fielder but the non-striker is running to the danger end.

there is not any grey area with mid-on

Yeah, a lot of coaches teach that the line runs not square but from gully to a point between square leg and mid-wicket.

It might be that quick singles are a risk but they are also baked into how teams play and how youngsters are coached.

 

[Gnske]

Silly dismissal aside, I'm really impressed by Jaiswal and India's ability to keep churning out potential great bats just as their old greats are going into the sunset. Jaiswal plays with confidence ahead of his years.

It'll be no time at all before he's refusing to give up his wicket for the rookies and abusing them.

 

[Betterpolo]

Silly dismissal aside, I'm really impressed by Jaiswal and India's ability to keep churning out potential great bats just as their old greats are going into the sunset. Jaiswal plays with confidence ahead of his years.

Brilliant player, absolute rock star to boot

 

[Qlder]

Jaiswal's now 5th in most runs by an Indian in a calender year. He's in pretty good company with one innings left to go higher

1. Tendulker - 1562
2. Sehwag - 1462
3. Sehwag - 1422
4. Gavaskar - 1407
5. Jaiswal - 1394
6. Tendulker - 1392

 

[Nintendo]

Go play some Nintendo, nerd.

Who you calling a nerd. Geek.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Silly dismissal aside, I'm really impressed by Jaiswal and India's ability to keep churning out potential great bats just as their old greats are going into the sunset. Jaiswal plays with confidence ahead of his years.

Typical anti-Indian posting from this guy

Wait

 

[SkyBlue]

It's a shame that this series would probably still be 50-50 if not for these two old farts messing things up for India

Would be a body blow if India go on to lose this and Sri Lanka beat the Aussies convincingly in the upcoming test series(which is entirely possible)

You cannot build a dominant winning team when your captain says it's 'okay' to lose one series in 12 years after being completely outplayed in all 3 matches.

BCCI (India) have to make a choice whether they want to be cricket's (flat track) bully or cricket's powerhouse team.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

India have been on the back foot for the 2nd and 3rd Tests and now they are on the back foot so far in this 4th Test. They've bought a team over that collectively is out of form. Their batting has been brittle, their bowling - only Bumrah has been consistently good. If Australia win this 4th Test then India need to win the 5th Test to draw series and they retain Border-Gavaskar Trophy. If they lose 5th Test then they lose series. Their (India) batting has been poor all series collectively so far apart from a few good shows here and there. Australia's batting has also been brittle but not as bad as India's batting.

But let's not forget, India lost lost 0-3 to New Zealand in India in that Test series, before they came out to Australia. They carried that poor form with them to Australia. They need to make changes very soon to set up their future. Sharma looks finished, so does Kohli. Ashwin retired last week as we know. You can sort of see the script for rest of this series....Australia should win series I think. India just haven't been good enough. Plus the MCG deck has no gremlins in it. It's good to bat on. India aren't taking advantage of the good batting deck.

Hopefully Pant and Jadeja can stick around. Pant is yet to fire.....India need him to fire now.

Australia has problems too but India aren't going so well and are worse.