morgieb
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Supposed to be raining according to weather reporters up until around 12pm, may finish before then though.
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***Official*** 3rd Test at the WACA
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flibbertyjibber
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50 wickets in 2017 says he is. Leading wicket taker for us here with 12@25 which is more than respectable given the way the rest have gone yet he needs dropping in your eyes.
Tannhauser
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Jimmy Anderson is the least of our problems, he really is.
What is England's (Test) bowling line-up in New Zealand?
What is England's (Test) bowling line-up in New Zealand?
Spark
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How is this inconsistent at all with the point being made in that post, harsh as it is?
flibbertyjibber
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If you look back it is one of a number of posts by him saying Anderson and Broad should be dropped, I am just saying no way is Anderson a problem and he will help regain the ashes for us in 2019 before retiring. The fact is Anderson has his wickets in 2017 at under 17 which is better than any other player in the world this year, hardly a reason to drop the guy is it?
oblongballs
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Yes, none of that negates what I just said. He has not been a good tourist, he has shown he can bowl very well in swing conditions. Plus, add to that he is getting on, pace is right down and he can't do anything when the ball wears on. Look, this series has been good for him, his best in Australia but is that enough? Is he going to be at his best next time they tour Aus? The answer is no. Plus the wickets he just picked up came against a team who looked lackadaisical having already batted England out of the game.
As I always say, look beyond the numbers and find real world context, or better still, watch the game
Oh and I did not simply advocate having him dropped, I said there needs to be a dropping of broad and possibly Anderson but more so, there needs to be a grooming of young quicks who should play. These two names should no longer be automatic selections.
It is a sensible policy to build a test side for the future.
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Depends on fitness and police but I would say
Anderson
Broad
Roland-Jones
Stokes
Moeen
With Overton, Woakes and Curran as back up pace bowlers.
morgieb
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On this, an hourly forecast for tomorrow:
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/Western_Australia/Perth/hour_by_hour.html
It should ease off overnight but it won’t completely disappear until 12pm or so. And given that cricket administrators are very conservative in ending rain delays, it may take a while for play to resume. The thing in its favour though is that the rain does not appear to be too heavy.
flibbertyjibber
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Looking to the future is one thing but when we have nobody fit who is decent to replace him why get rid?Yes, none of that negates what I just said. He has not been a good tourist, he has shown he can bowl very well in swing conditions. Plus, add to that he is getting on, pace is right down and he can't do anything when the ball wears on. Look, this series has been good for him, his best in Australia but is that enough? Is he going to be at his best next time they tour Aus? The answer is no. Plus the wickets he just picked up came against a team who looked lackadaisical having already batted England out of the game.
As I always say, look beyond the numbers and find real world context, or better still, watch the game
Oh and I did not simply advocate having him dropped, I said there needs to be a dropping of broad and possibly Anderson but more so, there needs to be a grooming of young quicks who should play. These two names should no longer be automatic selections.
It is a sensible policy to build a test side for the future.
As for saying is what he has done this series enough well it would be had anyone else bowled half decently to back him up. Other than Overton the rest have looked poor other than a spell by Woakes at Adelaide.
Hard to groom young quicks if they are never fit, we have actually tried to over recent years but they keep breaking down. It probably is time to look at the Overton's and Curran's but you can't just throw them in and expect them to be world beaters on a tour like this.
morgieb
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Could be anywhere from about 40 to a whole day. Rain will stop reasonably early so it’s a matter of how early and how quick the groundstaff are in getting the ground ready on time.
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flibbertyjibber
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Imagine we survive this and then Stokes is available for Melbourne, the hype would be ridiculous.
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Faster but inaccurate. Injured atm I believe.
S.Kennedy
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Jesus, Cook 13.80, behind Nathan Lyon. All four Aussie bowlers way ahead of England's best averager who is Anderson 8 at 34.88. Do not look at M. Ali's statistics - I warn you: they are of Yasir Shah proportions!!
England will probably still manufacture a way to lose even if the monsoon arrives.They're saying first session will be rained out.
the big bambino
International Captain
I think that Anderson average needs updating.