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***Official*** 3rd Test at the WACA
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Come on ooh aah, take a ten-for.
Salamuddin
International Debutant
Matteh said:
Even with Vaughan and Simon Jones and Trescothick (who's overrated in any case), Australia would still have won pretty comfortably imo.
You guys sat on your laurels after 2005 thinking you were such a great team when in reality you were not.
Australia critically analysed their game to become a better team and we're seeing the difference in the two approaches now.
Salamuddin
International Debutant
I still maintain A lot of good fortune went England's way during last years AShes and they capitalized on that but they didn't look behind the final result to see there were still serious deficiences in their team:
Anyway some thoughts as to what's next for England (with a view to 2009)
1) Harmison, your main strike bowler continues to bowl rubbish most of the time.
2) Geraint Jones is not good enough period.....his keeping may have improved but his batting is tosh and that's not good enuf for a keeper anymore.
3) Flintoff is unreliable as a test batsman - and given that he bowls as a frontline bowler....you guys are effectively playing with only 5 batsmen given that Geraint cannot bat.
4) Giles served England reasonaly well but I think once Monty SIngh came on board, he should have been dropped immediately. Monty is so obviously a better bolwer and how many runs is Giles honestly going to make ?
5) The 4th seamer - Granted Simon Jones is injured and that's a big loss but if England want to be no.1 they need to develop depth particularly in the bowling dept......
I was prepared to give Mahmood a chance but from what I've seen he ain't test class.
Anderson I feel is overrated - I just cannot see him being consistently accuarte at test level with his action.
6) Openers - Cook is a young guy who needs to be developed but England need a consistent opening partnership if they wanna be world no.1
I'd bite the bullet and overlook Tres (who's pretty uselles outside England anyway part from his mental issues) and invest in STrauss and Cook.
7) Captaincy - Give it back to Strauss. Freddy is your best player and you want him to play without any undue pressure.
Besides Strauss I feel will be a better captain.
Anyway some thoughts as to what's next for England (with a view to 2009)
1) Harmison, your main strike bowler continues to bowl rubbish most of the time.
2) Geraint Jones is not good enough period.....his keeping may have improved but his batting is tosh and that's not good enuf for a keeper anymore.
3) Flintoff is unreliable as a test batsman - and given that he bowls as a frontline bowler....you guys are effectively playing with only 5 batsmen given that Geraint cannot bat.
4) Giles served England reasonaly well but I think once Monty SIngh came on board, he should have been dropped immediately. Monty is so obviously a better bolwer and how many runs is Giles honestly going to make ?
5) The 4th seamer - Granted Simon Jones is injured and that's a big loss but if England want to be no.1 they need to develop depth particularly in the bowling dept......
I was prepared to give Mahmood a chance but from what I've seen he ain't test class.
Anderson I feel is overrated - I just cannot see him being consistently accuarte at test level with his action.
6) Openers - Cook is a young guy who needs to be developed but England need a consistent opening partnership if they wanna be world no.1
I'd bite the bullet and overlook Tres (who's pretty uselles outside England anyway part from his mental issues) and invest in STrauss and Cook.
7) Captaincy - Give it back to Strauss. Freddy is your best player and you want him to play without any undue pressure.
Besides Strauss I feel will be a better captain.
