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***Official*** 2nd Test at Adelaide

GotSpin

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i guess historically even in series defeats I always feel Australia produce days of total magic. So even in that horrible SL whitewash we bowled like champions quite often. Lyon and SOK had moments of true greatness in India.

Our batting is just horrible on spinning decks but yeah, we seem to always be able to 'compete'. Rarely do I watch a match and think we have no chance like what happens every time I watch WI play
I'm really hoping that Steves attitude to batting will help the whole line up
 

Starfighter

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i agree. basically what nicholas said. I reckon England will dig in and go big second time around. Odds are one of the boys will finally find form and ton up
Aside from all their batsmen being mentally out of it, it would have to be a marathon effort to draw the test. Wouldn't enforce the follow on now with this partnership, but I don't see things going much better for England the second time around. Root's choosing to bowl on a batting pitch showed they'd mentally lost even before the toss.
 

mr_mister

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Aside from all their batsmen being mentally out of it, it would have to be a marathon effort to draw the test. Wouldn't enforce the follow on now with this partnership, but I don't see things going much better for England the second time around. Root's choosing to bowl on a batting pitch showed they'd mentally lost even before the toss.

I've just been so impressed by Root, Moeen, Bairstow(and Stokes) over the last couple of years in tests. Every time I start to think one of them isn't all that they'll pull a great innings out of nowhere. I feel like of those 3 is due a century and yeah law of averages.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
I've just been so impressed by Root, Moeen, Bairstow(and Stokes) over the last couple of years in tests. Every time I start to think one of them isn't all that they'll pull a great innings out of nowhere. I feel like of those 3 is due a century and yeah law of averages.
Along with that Indian away series I think our recent series in England was our worst since re-admission.

Even though it wasn't our greatest SA team and with issues around Domingo I always felt we had a chance but those 4 were what got England up in the end with injection of TRJ.

But that quartet was vital to saving their batting time and again when we had them 3/4 for nothing.
 

adub

International Captain
This FFS. Drag em forward and attack the outside edge. We got these two in by not making em worry about their stumps.
 

mr_mister

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No. Starc bowled well for the first 5 overs of every innings... the rest of the time it was a pie show.
oh please. Sri Lanka's highest team score was only 350. They batted out of their skin(Dhanjaya especially, but thats starting to look like a fluke as was Mendis' century)

Hazelwood bowled fine that series. Gary could have bowled a lot better but still took 16 wickets.
 

Compton

International Debutant
Overton having a decent debut, if you ignore the disaster of a Test Match that the England team are having.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
This are all opinions not based on facts and made to create false equivalences. We are considering the past 4 year circle I am assuming.
Yeah OK I'll concede that there have been a few upsets to the general pattern over the last 4 years but for the most part it's held true.

In the last 4 years India has lost 1 home test, Australia has lost 2, New Zealand 3 and South Africa 4. Only England, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and the West Indies have lost a significant portion of home tests and in England's case they have only lost one series - a two test series vs Sri Lanka where they literally were 1 wicket away from drawing the series.

Over the 4 years, the overall win% for teams is:

Aus: 55%
India: 50%
New Zealand: 50%
South Africa: 45%
Pakistan: 43%
Sri Lanka: 40%
England: 39%
Bangladesh: 26%
West Indies: 22%
Zimbabwe: 0%

Hardly looks like India are dominant over the cycle does it? Yes they have a better w/l ratio but that further proves my point. ALL teams in world cricket right now have strengths and weaknesses and it's difficult to actually say who is the best side because conditions seem to matter more than anything else right now.
 

TheJediBrah

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There hasn't been a close Ashes since 2009.
2013 was competitive, even though the end scoreline looked a bit one-sided

3-2 in 2015 was close-ish too, even if you consider the scoreline a bit misleading because the last game was a dead rubber

When Australia made over its whole batting line up after getting shot out for **** all vs SA?
that was 2016-17
 
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Daemon

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Next person to mention any country, it's players or pitches that are not involved in this series gets 20 infraction points
 

adub

International Captain
That idea of pulling the length back 4m as soon as Overton came in looks real smart now.

Starc has bowled a lot better the last few overs attacking the sticks and so when the shorter one comes...
 

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