*Official* 2024 South Africa tour of New Zealand: 2 tests

[Bahnz]

Perhaps. He's definitely learnt over time. Back in the day we played SL at home right after a big battle with Aus in 2015 where he made 2 tons over there. We came home for SL and he kept getting out in the 80s batting with his penis.

Contrary to narrative, KW does have an ego in there, and he has thrown it away a lot batting with the penii when he was younger. Still does in ODIs.

This is true but I also think in some respects he was a better player when he used to look to impose himself on opposition bowlers more, especially when playing against high quality attacks. Try to face 250 balls v Cummins and co and the odds are sooner or later you're going to get a ball with your name on it. Taking a few calculated risks puts pressure back on the opposition and forces them to move away from plan A (I.e. bowl in the channel and hope he feathers one). He possibly feels he doesn't have the same reflexes he had when he was 25 and so needs to take a more risk-minimisation oriented approach, but I can't help but look but at those hundreds at the Gabba and the Waca were he made Johnson et al look like club bowlers and feel that he's lost something.

 

[Gnske]

Perhaps. He's definitely learnt over time. Back in the day we played SL at home right after a big battle with Aus in 2015 where he made 2 tons over there. We came home for SL and he kept getting out in the 80s batting with his penis.

Contrary to narrative, KW does have an ego in there, and he has thrown it away a lot batting with the penii when he was younger. Still does in ODIs.

It's a hard thing to battle with ones penis

 

[Flem274*]

This is true but I also think in some respects he was a better player when he used to look to impose himself on opposition bowlers more, especially when playing against high quality attacks. Try to face 250 balls v Cummins and co and the odds are sooner or later you're going to get a ball with your name on it. Taking a few calculated risks puts pressure back on the opposition and forces them to move away from plan A (I.e. bowl in the channel and hope he feathers one). He possibly feels he doesn't have the same reflexes he had when he was 25 and so needs to take a more risk-minimisation oriented approach, but I can't help but look but at those hundreds at the Gabba and the Waca were he made Johnson et al look like club bowlers and feel that he's lost something.

100%. But it's also true his contempt for **** bowling led to some missed opportunities to cash in, a bit like 2008 - 2012 Taylor.

 

[jcas0167]

Watching a replay, enjoying Stevenson and McMillan discussing Williamson's record and not to take it for granted. Agree, sometimes have to pinch myself that this guy comes from Otumoetai where I played a lot of cricket as a kid.

 

[Gnske]

Batters change, some become disgusting useless jokes like Tendulkar, some thrive towards the end like Hussey.

And lets be honest, runs weren't exactly hard to come by in those tests he made hundreds in either. Johnson spent two summers getting spanked on those lifeless concrete slabs.

 

[Athlai]

FMD
Kane at 10 centuries since 2020, 2 50s! Absolutely insane conversion rate

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[Athlai]

Wonder how his last decade stacks up with 10 year runs of the other greats

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[Gnske]

Wonder how his last decade stacks up with 10 year runs of the other greats

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God Voges was good

 

[Athlai]

God Voges was good

Voges Labu and sorta Daryl Mitchell domestic battlers that hit legendary golden streaks

 

[Slifer]

Wonder how his last decade stacks up with 10 year runs of the other greats

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Can you show the home and away split??

 

[Shri]

is kane the GOAT kiwi batter

 

[ashley bach]

Surely there can be no doubt whatsoever.

 

[Shri]

thought martin crowe would have been better away but holes in his record too

 

[ashley bach]

Only two things left for KW to conquer is a triple century and to improve on his away record somewhat.

 

[ashley bach]

thought martin crowe would have been better away but holes in his record too

lol just talked about Hogan earlier tonight because the bill at dinner was 299.

 

[Nintendo]

Kane averages 42 away, and 45 if you include neutral venues. Is that really that bad? It's probably something that keeps him out of the "best since bradman" discussion that smith finds himself in, but outside of that it's pretty miniscule, no? Bloke has 31 test hundreds at 55 in a hard batting era. If you go since the start of 2016 when batting got harder worldwide, his away+neutral average is actually higher (nearly 48). Maybe his away average is more just a symptom of the fact 14 of his first 20 test's when he was still young (debuted at 19/20, up until ~23) where away, and in those he averaged 28 away in those 14 test's.

If kane plays for Australia, or another big nation like that in a more competitive era, I doubt he gets 20 straight test's, mostly away, so young and probably has a higher away average, no?

There's only 13 players in the history of the game who made over 850 runs (the amount kane made) away by the age of 22. Kane's average is the worse of anyone of that list bar ashraful, but I think it shows that alot of players don't actually get the chance to play that much cricket away from home, or in general, at such a young age.

 

[kevinw]

Williamson is the best batter of his generation imo. Just unreal levels of consistency.

 

[Slifer]

Kane averages 42 away, and 45 if you include neutral venues. Is that really that bad? It's probably something that keeps him out of the "best since bradman" discussion that smith finds himself in, but outside of that it's pretty miniscule, no? Bloke has 31 test hundreds at 55 in a hard batting era. If you go since the start of 2016 when batting got harder worldwide, his away+neutral average is actually higher (nearly 48). Maybe his away average is more just a symptom of the fact 14 of his first 20 test's when he was still young (debuted at 19/20, up until ~23) where away, and in those he averaged 28 away in those 14 test's.

If kane plays for Australia, or another big nation like that in a more competitive era, I doubt he gets 20 straight test's, mostly away, so young and probably has a higher away average, no?

There's only 13 players in the history of the game who made over 850 runs (the amount kane made) away by the age of 22. Kane's average is the worse of anyone of that list bar ashraful, but I think it shows that alot of players don't actually get the chance to play that much cricket away from home, or in general, at such a young age.

42 away is just not good enough if you want to be in the best after Bradman category. Those who are there: Sachin, Hobbs, Smith, Sobers all average over 50 away. Sobers has a huge disparity between his home vs away but 50 away is still good enough.

Kane is probably in the next group but on the lower end.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

42 away is just not good enough if you want to be in the best after Bradman category. Those who are there: Sachin, Hobbs, Smith, Sobers all average over 50 away. Sobers has a huge disparity between his home vs away but 50 away is still good enough.

Kane is probably in the next group but on the lower end.

He averages 45.4 away, you’re not including the neutral UAE tests or the WTC final.

 

[Slifer]

He averages 45.4 away, you’re not including the neutral UAE tests or the WTC final.

Right so its not away. And the only decent country he averages more than 40 away to, is Australia (5 test minimum). That's not good enough. Sorry. He's an atg surely, but not in the 2nd after the Don.