**Official** 1st Test @ Perth, 22nd-26th November

[Burgey]

The theory, at least as I've seen it expressed by current day batting coaches, is that it helps you line up your off stump better and it allows you to access the straight ball more efficiently, which in principle turns good balls on the stumps into scoring options all over the legside. It also makes you lethal against anything short as you're already in a natural position to pull or cut. The downsides are... well, we saw them.

My understanding is that it's much much more common these days than it used to be, in no small part because of the success of the guy batting #4 in this game. Though I remember Clarke transitioning more to an open stance in the second half of his career as well.

The old “find someone who’s an unorthodox freak of nature and assume every other **** can do it” coaching fail.

I’m left handed, so I get opening up your stance a bit because it was necessary to actually be in line with a right arm over bowler, but I don’t get the idea of inviting lbws by squaring up so much you’re offering both edges and your pads to the bowler for the sake of being able to play a leg glance, which tbh you should be able to do anyway ffs - it’s the off spin of batting - everyone should be able to play it.

 

[Burgey]

I mean, you watch Labushagne yesterday, which sadly we all had to, and he couldn’t work a one to save himself then had his pad blown off anyway while hopelessly squared up to ball which didn’t move much anyways, certainly not like a number of others did.

 

[Spark]

The other possible reason it's caught on, of course, is that opening your stance up to access the onside is also basically standard power-hitting technique. Though I don't think that applies a lot to the current Test side - it certainly might to the next generation.

 

[Burgey]

Normally think of Starc bowling those unplayable wicket taking deliveries, but also going for a few too as he doesn't always control the swing.

So basically, once again, someone who's actually had a bit of match practice leading into the series is in the best form. You'd think that teams around the world (because it's hardly just an Aussie issue) might have noticed this by now....

Indeed. See also Carey, A. who's played all the Shoeld games and at least looked capacble of making some runs. Granted he came in when the ball was a bit older, but still, he's batting seven and the form player in the country rn after coming in with FC batting behind him.

 

[Spark]

The concern for me is that Labuschagne played two Shield games as well and didn't exactly set the world on fire either, just a few starts. Same with Khawaja.

 

[the big bambino]

Yesterday kind of impressed the thought modern batsmen can't bat but they can hit. I know its a generalisation but it explains the contradiction that teams can get blown away in a session and a half but the same side could chase down 350. It makes for unpredictable cricket but it's also very frustrating. Yesterday was also funny in that it both backed and mocked the pessimism of Indian fans; India's batting confirmed those fears but not enough consideration was given to Australia's own flaky batting. All it would take is one of those efforts we saw from Australia last night to show India were never losing this 5-0. Yet in fact our batsmen are capable of several implosions like this one over a series.

 

[Hungry Llama]

I tought that wicket looked green. Even marsh was lethal.

Does Bumrah have some special double jointedness cos i tried to get my arm to do that but it was impossible.

 

[Daemon]

I tought that wicket looked green. Even marsh was lethal.

Does Bumrah have some special double jointedness cos i tried to get my arm to that but it was impossible.

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Hyperextension

reminds me of the shape of a sidearm actually lol

 

[Nintendo]

Can somoene dig up marnus's FC only numbers (no tests) since the start of the last SA test series over here? That's really when this bad form run started in tests. I've got a feeling he's done well in shield and county, just wanna double check.

 

[cascade]

I don't know a lot about playing or coaching cricket at the top level, so wondering if someone here might be able to offer some insight into something I've been curious about. Carey mentioned figuring out a technical change to his batting during the break he had after NZ that helped him to feel less rushed and thus make better decisions. Why is it that he had to work that out by himself, away from the Australian setup, when he was struggling with batting for about a year?

Seemed odd to me, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.

 

[Spark]

I don't know a lot about playing or coaching cricket at the top level, so wondering if someone here might be able to offer some insight into something I've been curious about. Carey mentioned figuring out a technical change to his batting during the break he had after NZ that helped him to feel less rushed and thus make better decisions. Why is it that he had to work that out by himself, away from the Australian setup, when he was struggling with batting for about a year?

Seemed odd to me, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.

It sounds to me like he simply had a lot more time on his hands and coaches he trusted and could spend dedicated weeks to ironing out that technical flaw as opposed to worrying about general training, working on his keeping, traveling, playing etc etc.

I think it's pretty standard for most players to save working on technical flaws in a really intensive way for the offseason.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I hate this team! How have they gotten rolled like this. ****ing fuming! Bring back AB to go off at these overhyped **** *****. Richie had more skill in his left little toe. **** them all. ****ing stupid ****wit **** *****!

No need to overreact mate.


Save the gnashing of teeth until we are 7 for 19 sometime before lunch tomorrow.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I tought that wicket looked green. Even marsh was lethal.

Does Bumrah have some special double jointedness cos i tried to get my arm to do that but it was impossible.

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He's throwing it.

Typical Indian cheats.


Ban the ****. BAN HIM NOW.

Preferably before play starts today please.

 

[Qlder]

Anyone wondering why Australia batting failed again. Here are the batting averages for Australia this year (all played 6 Tests)

Khawaja - 282 runs @ 28.20
Labuschagne - 242 runs @ 26.88
Smith - 213 runs @ 26.62
Head - 209 runs @ 23.22
Marsh - 216 runs @ 24.00

Carey - 266 runs @ 33.25
Cummins - 160 runs @ 22.85

 

[social]

Anyone wondering why Australia batting failed again. Here are the batting averages for Australia this year (all played 6 Tests)

Khawaja - 282 runs @ 28.20
Labuschagne - 242 runs @ 26.88
Smith - 213 runs @ 26.62
Head - 209 runs @ 23.22
Marsh - 216 runs @ 24.00

Carey - 264 runs @ 37.71
Cummins - 160 runs @ 22.85

By far the best is Green and he’s out for the year

Collapses by these 2 teams were entirely predictable if you simply looked at their form

 

[Spark]

I do very much like Mitchell Marsh, he's been a great servant of Australian cricket over the last five years in particular, and he was vital last summer.

But we all know this is going to end badly and soon. I'd be keeping my phone close if I were Beau Webster.

 

[cascade]

It sounds to me like he simply had a lot more time on his hands and coaches he trusted and could spend dedicated weeks to ironing out that technical flaw as opposed to worrying about general training, working on his keeping, traveling, playing etc etc.

I think it's pretty standard for most players to save working on technical flaws in a really intensive way for the offseason.

That makes sense, thanks.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Need to win this at any cost. With rohit coming our batting would be weak

 

[Nintendo]

I do very much like Mitchell Marsh, he's been a great servant of Australian cricket over the last five years in particular, and he was vital last summer.

But we all know this is going to end badly and soon. I'd be keeping my phone close if I were Beau Webster.

Why?

 

[govinda indian fan]

Need someone to play quick but big innings. Need to get 200 to win