***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

[roseboy64]

Rikjaard wasn't a bad player.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Okay, you can stop now. Managerial ability has no correlation whatsoever with playing ability. Look at either Sir Alex...

 

[roseboy64]

I didn't bring it up.I was just backing Robson and Richardson.

 

[marc71178]

He was a mighty fine player.

Yes, and that means naff all about being a manager.

Look at the top clubs in the Premiership table - I don't think any of the top 6 have a manager who was a great player, in fact there's not many in the whole league!

 

[marc71178]

I didn't bring it up.I was just backing Robson and Richardson.

If Richardson were that good, he'd have been playing at Old Trafford.

 

[twctopcat]

Pretty much what I said.

Not really, you cannot really classify them apart from saying the top 3 are better and then it doesn't matter, trying to rank after that is pointless.

 

[twctopcat]

Oh great (!)

If you think they don't have talent then you're being extremely naive and anti- man utd for the sake of it, which is a shame really. A lot of people immediately class these players as rubbish because of the shirts they wear and stupid reputations which don't really hold nowadays if you watch them week in week out.

 

[twctopcat]

With regards Richardson he is only 20 years old and there is definitely promise. He is on loan to get games because he is good, but not good enough to get it the first XI, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is toilet. He has aquitted himself very well at WBA in the past couple of weeks and has definitely added a dimension to their game.

 

[twctopcat]

Rikjaard wasn't a bad player.

He was a quality player, just ask rudi voller's perm

 

[marc71178]

If you think they don't have talent then you're being extremely naive and anti- man utd for the sake of it

You think Phil Neville has talent?

 

[twctopcat]

You think Phil Neville has talent?

I think so, it might not be as obvious as ronaldo's but anyone who plays football will know he has.

 

[bugssy]

go liverpool in th league cup final v chelsea not that we have a hope in hell

 

[Tom Halsey]

No, it isn't.

But then again who has done that in the modern era?

And he didn't take them from 3rd to Champions.

It was 5th.

Ferguson, for one.

And 5th doesn't increase my opinion of Wenger substantially. He is a good manager, but not as good as you make out.

On the plus side, yesterday was the fist time he saw anything.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Again misphrasing what I said - funny how people are ignoring the bit about his net spend.

Funny how you keep ignoring the fact that Ferguson spent very little from '86 to '92.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Whereas Manure don't have anyone who dives do they

They do, but when compared to Arsenal, not very many.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Caroll, Heinze, Keane, Giggs, Ronaldo, Horse, Saha, Silvestre, ...

And if I were to do the same with Arsenal, it would go over the limit of words per post.

 

[Tom Halsey]

If he was outstanding he wouldn't have been loaned out. Simple as.

Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Ferguson loans most young players out, Beckham comes to mind immediately, and there's many more.

 

[roseboy64]

If Richardson were that good, he'd have been playing at Old Trafford.

He is good but Fortune and Giggs are better.Some people take longer to develop into class players.Even Ronaldo and Rooney aren't fully ready yet.Robben's an exception.It would be stupid of Ferguson to play Richardson when he's not ready just to prove that he's good when he has players who are more experienced and are fully ready for top class football.

 

[Tom Halsey]

He's playing for West Brom, doesn't that tell you enough?

And Beckham went to Preston, and look where he went. I really don't know where you're trying to go with this.

 

[roseboy64]

go liverpool in th league cup final v chelsea not that we have a hope in hell

A month ago I'd have given it to Chelsea but with their current problems it's not so clear cut.