Most over rated players

[ramkumar_gr]

Kallis isn't top shelf then?

No he has more than one gear, as he holds the record for the fastest 50 in test cricket. I dont expect Cook to do that. But he cannot accelerate even if he need be.

 

[Salamuddin]

And as things stand Sehwag has indeed achieved more as a Test opener than Smith.

Jayasuriya scored decently in the 1990s as a Test opener. Yes, he was always more of a flat-track scorer, but it's certainly not accurate to say he never did a thing when the going got tough. Sehwag has rarely had to face a truly top-class attack.

You could say the same about Ponting and a lot of batsmen that made hay in the post 2000 period.

ANd I say again, Sehwag still did very decently against Mcgrath and Warne over 5 tests something that SMith, Gayle, Trescothick and Jaysuriya have failed to do

 

[ramkumar_gr]

And as things stand Sehwag has indeed achieved more as a Test opener than Smith.

Jayasuriya scored decently in the 1990s as a Test opener. Yes, he was always more of a flat-track scorer, but it's certainly not accurate to say he never did a thing when the going got tough. Sehwag has rarely had to face a truly top-class attack.

I very much agree Jayasurya had his times as a Test opener. But he cannot come anyway close to Sehwag when it comes to performances overseas.

 

[NUFAN]

I love the Sibanda vs Sehwag debate. It's like a David vs Golliath debate where Golliath will win easily despite David's best efforts..

 

[Prince EWS]

I feel so many players in domestic cricket playing in India are better than most, playing international cricket. But i cannot root for them in any forum, as i accept potential does not always translate into success.

I'm not actually saying that Sibanda has achieved more than Sehwag - that'd be ridiculous. My comment was partly exaggerated, partly a future predicition, and partly just to convey who I'd rather have in my side. Regardless of what Sehwag has, quite surprisingly, achieved as an international opening batsman throughout his career, I'd honestly rather have Sibanda in my team if the game was tomorrow. And you can't really argue against that given you have seen very little if any of Sibanda since his massive improvement.

 

[Prince EWS]

No he has more than one gear, as he holds the record for the fastest 50 in test cricket. I dont expect Cook to do that. But he cannot accelerate even if he need be.

He holds the record for the fastest half century because the bowling was rubbish. If you bowled rubbish to Cook, he'd score quickly as well. Kallis is one of my favourite players currently, but he is the perfect example of someone who only has one gear.

 

[Prince EWS]

I love the Sibanda vs Sehwag debate. It's like a David vs Golliath debate where Golliath will win easily despite David's best efforts..

You do realise that David won, don't you?

 

[ramkumar_gr]

I'm not actually saying that Sibanda has achieved more than Sehwag - that'd be ridiculous. My comment was partly exaggerated, partly a future predicition, and partly just to convey who I'd rather have in my side. Regardless of what Sehwag has, quite surprisingly, achieved as an international opening batsman throughout his career, I'd honestly rather have Sibanda in my team if the game was tomorrow. And you can't really argue against that given you have seen very little if any of Sibanda since his massive improvement.

I have not read any headlines to suggest what Sibanda achieved of late is massive by means. But it is your liberty to have anyone you want in your team.

You are talking about someone having potential against someone who has proved himself time and again.

 

[ramkumar_gr]

He holds the record for the fastest half century because the bowling was rubbish. If you bowled rubbish to Cook, he'd score quickly as well. Kallis is one of my favourite players currently, but he is the perfect example of someone who only has one gear.

May be, but we will have to wait till he plays against Zim or Ban.

But Kallis usually ups the ante after he scores a hundred. But a couple of times, i had seen Cook scoring even slower after his hundred.

 

[NUFAN]

You do realise that David won, don't you?

In the famous case yes, but not this time, no way will Sibanda be even close to Sehwag. Make a debate with him and Ganga, that'd be closer.

 

[NUFAN]

He holds the record for the fastest half century because the bowling was rubbish. If you bowled rubbish to Cook, he'd score quickly as well. Kallis is one of my favourite players currently, but he is the perfect example of someone who only has one gear.

I don't feel Kallis has just the one gear. He often goes on short bursts where he makes 15 or so in 20 balls, then gets bogged down. I would say he's got at least 2 gears, more likely 3, just the problem with him is that one of the gears is neutral.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't feel Kallis has just the one gear. He often goes on short bursts where he makes 15 or so in 20 balls, then gets bogged down. I would say he's got at least 2 gears, more likely 3, just the problem with him is that one of the gears is neutral.

He goes on said bursts when bowlers bowl rubbish.

 

[ramkumar_gr]

He goes on said bursts when bowlers bowl rubbish.

Cook does not do that even if the bowling is so.

 

[Prince EWS]

Cook does not do that even if the bowling is so.

Firstly, he hasn't really been involved in many series where the bowling has been rubbish, or when upping the scoring was required.

Secondly, who cares?

 

[ramkumar_gr]

Firstly, he hasn't really been involved in many series where the bowling has been rubbish, or when upping the scoring was required.

Secondly, who cares?

We do care for sure, during scenarios, where batsman have to do the scoring quickly in a test match and the time is paramount.

For me, Cook cannot score quickly and definitely have lesser gears when compared to Kallis. I have seen enough of Cook to be convinced of that.

 

[Prince EWS]

We do care for sure, during scenarios, where batsman have to do the scoring quickly in a test match and the time is paramount.

For me, Cook cannot score quickly and definitely have lesser gears when compared to Kallis. I have seen enough of Cook to be convinced of that.

Well, I disagree entirely, on both points really. Not worthy of an argument though.

 

[NUFAN]

We do care for sure, during scenarios, where batsman have to do the scoring quickly in a test match and the time is paramount.

For me, Cook cannot score quickly and definitely have lesser gears when compared to Kallis. I have seen enough of Cook to be convinced of that.

How often do England get in a position where they need there opening batsmen to score quickly? If they need some quick runs, Cook can go for it and then put a Pietersen/Flintoff type player to make the runs. Cook is a good talent who has a great technique in Test matches.

 

[ramkumar_gr]

Well, I disagree entirely, on both points really. Not worthy of an argument though.

they are more worthy points than Sibanda > Sehwag.

 

[morgieb]

Dhoni
Sehwag
Afridi
Symonds

Why? He's Australia's best all-rounder

 

[Prince EWS]

Why? He's Australia's best all-rounder

Even though his bowling is rubbish and his batting isn't test standard?