Mohammed Amir cleared to return with immediate effect

[marc71178]

It's not been confirmed yet. If the ICC had done their job in the first place we wouldn't be in this position anyway.

 

[Grumpy]

The ICC did. It was an appropriate ban.

 

[marc71178]

No, it wasn't. The only true deterrent for an offence like this is a life ban.

 

[Grumpy]

No, it wasn't. The only true deterrent for an offence like this is a life ban.

If you are referring to match fixing, that worked a treat with Cronje et al. didn't it? Glad his case acts a deterrent and we don't have to deal with this issue :sarcasm

Fixing will plague this sport as long as there are illegal bookies with powerful people placing bets and having vested interests in the outcomes for matches.

The Amir case is not related to that issue. Mazhar Majeed was not a bookie. He was businessman with financial difficulties and who acted as an agent for some of the players of that Pak team. The Fake Sheikh, the man responsible behind the NOTW sting, was not a saint with morals who cared about the sanctity of the game. He was a man of dubious moralities who would do anything to get a story.

Read the Atherton article I posted.

 

[Bahnz]

Yeah, look if your view is that Amir's actions have damaged the sport and he should therefore never be allowed to play again, then that's fine. But the idea that life bans are necessary because they'll serve to deter future match-fixing is obviously incorrect at this point. I used to work in gambling policy and had a meeting with a member of interpol's anti-sports corruption team once. She was actually opposed to heavy sentences and life-bans because it resulted in athletes being far less likely to come forward about approaches and minor offences.

 

[TNT]

Cook in a roundabout way thinks Amir should have got a life ban. I agree with him.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yeah, look if your view is that Amir's actions have damaged the sport and he should therefore never be allowed to play again, then that's fine. But the idea that life bans are necessary because they'll serve to deter future match-fixing is obviously incorrect at this point. I used to work in gambling policy and had a meeting with a member of interpol's anti-sports corruption team once. She was actually opposed to heavy sentences and life-bans because it resulted in athletes being far less likely to come forward about approaches and minor offences.

If the possibility of a life ban deters people from coming forward, then surely it's enough of a deterrent to make fixers think twice before fixing. How does it not work then?

 

[Athlai]

If the possibility of a life ban deters people from coming forward, then surely it's enough of a deterrent to make fixers think twice before fixing. How does it not work then?

Well the happy mix would be finding a deterrent that scares the guys who might be tempted enough while still giving enough of an out for the guilty minded who want to come clean with their transgressions.

There are likely plenty of fixers around now or who operated in the last dozen years or so that could assist in identifying fixing rings that are too afraid to come forward.

 

[Pratters]

This will always be a sore topic whenever he plays now, sadly. Just shows how it's so tough to have rehabilitation. Only thing he can do is take wickets and make the best of his talent, which hopefully he will do.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If the possibility of a life ban deters people from coming forward, then surely it's enough of a deterrent to make fixers think twice before fixing. How does it not work then?

The issue would be punishing players who willingly came forward with life bans, eg. Lou Vincent. That would definitely deter people from coming forward.

 

[Bahnz]

The issue would be punishing players who willingly came forward with life bans, eg. Lou Vincent. That would definitely deter people from coming forward.

I don't think Vincent willingly came forward - didn't he just spill his guts after being caught?

 

[TheJediBrah]

I dunno but he seemed to be a lot more cooperative than Cairns

 

[Daemon]

The issue would be punishing players who willingly came forward with life bans, eg. Lou Vincent. That would definitely deter people from coming forward.

Life bans for those who are caught, reduced bans for those who turn themselves in?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Obviously

 

[GIMH]

England v Pakistan: Mohammad Amir backs life bans for match-fixers - BBC Sport

 

[OverratedSanity]

That's some prime #NotTheOnion material right there

 

[morgieb]

That is probably the biggest pot meet kettle thing I've ever seen. Initially thought it was a RickRoll.

 

[King Pietersen]

Mohammad Amir - Extended Interview | Video | Watch TV Show | Sky Sports

Worth a watch!

 

[Daemon]

Hard to believe he didn't even train during the period. I mean other than the little club game he played..

Anyways, I don't agree with the length of their bans but I can't hold that against them. They've served what they was given and for Amir's case he appears to have his priorities set right, so I don't hold any resentment towards them and wish them the best of luck.

 

[Grumpy]

Hard to believe he didn't even train during the period. I mean other than the little club game he played..

Looks like he spent that time getting an education. Don't remember him speaking English so confidently before.

Glad to see him back. Got Trescothick with a beauty today.